PES4 PS2 Demo on the OPS2 mag!!!!!
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PES4KING05
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the demo on the mag isnt totally different from the virgin one
PES4KING05
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pettervif said:
There is already a scan from a subscriber on the other pages!
Monkey Man
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For anyone who can't be bothered to click on the link I posted here's the review typed out (Thanks to Kevinjp at pesfan):-
PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 4 REVIEW.
Realising you've forgotten the missus' birthday just as you hear her key in the door. Turning on CD:UK to the words, "Now here's Robbie Williams with his hip hop version of the Beatles classic, In My Life . Sharing a cell with a 20- stone tattoed murderer known as 'Anal' Arthur? Bah, pass the soap, big man. As far as we’re concerned, these nightmare scenarios are mere trifles compared to the definition of real fear; the possibility that Pro Evolution Soccer 4 might not be that good. Yes, we’ve been staring into the abyss for the past few weeks. The Japanese version of PES 4, Winning Eleven 8, arrived in August suffering from serious slowdown when a number of players were on-screen at the same time (corners were particularly problematic). Even the early UK preview code of PES4 retained this juddery framerate during crowd scenes. We were terrified. What if they’d broken PES? It didn’t bear thinking about.
THE NEW RELIGION
And so it came to pass that we took possession of the first finished copy of PES4 in existence, hand shaking not only with the usual excitement, but with more than a little dread. Ten minutes, a 2-1 victory over Tim and all was alright with the world. PES4 is flawless footballing genius, a 10/10 masterpiece that runs rings around PES3. This is no cult anymore: this is the New Religion.
Where PES3 was a quantum leap in quality over PES2 thanks to a complete overhaul of the animation system, PES4 satisfies itself with refining all that was good about its predecessor. As in real football, passing is now the most important skill to master and you really have to work to retain possession – passes are no longer magnetically drawn to the nearest teammate; you have to pick out a man and judge the pace of the ball rather than simply pressing X and letting the computer do the hard work. Don’t worry though, this doesn’t make things needlessly complicated, just more realistic, and if you’re playing short passes to nearby teammates the one-touch stuff is more fluent than its ever been.
Player AI has also been taken to a new level of authenticy. Goal-poachers such as Van-Nistelrooy play off the shoulder of their marker, timing runs to perfection and sliping through the offside trap. Defenders, meanwhile, have tightened up their act, tracking back better and covering unmarked players rather than stubbornly sticking to their area of the pitch. And there are even more individuals who play in the exact style of their real-life counterparts – Henry will drift out to the left and terrorise defences with his speed and dribbling , Sol Campbell is an absolute rock who wins everything in the air and dismissively lets attackers bounce off him, while Cristiano Ronaldo sends full-backs cross-eyed with his stepover flurries. But the most noticeable AI improvement is that players now overlap intelligently, finally enabling you to play winger and full-back properly in tandem – carry the ball forward with Beckham, suck in the left-back, then bypass him with a through ball the Neviller who’s sprinting past on the overlap ready for a cross into the box. It looks superb in action and adds a whole new dimension to your attacking options.
Stats play a much bigger part than before with player abilities now genuinely reflected out on the pitch. As proven by his displays in England’s WC Qualifiers, Alan Smith may be a hugely effective attacking pest but sometimes his control lets him down – it’s the same in PES4. Smith’s first-touch rating isn’t great so occasionally you’ll see the ball frustratingly bouncing off him, gifting possession to the opposition. Everyone knows Scholesy’s tackling can be erratic to say the least, add that to his high aggression rating and you have a recipe for stupid lunges and a big collection of yellow cards. Give the ball to the Ginger Prince in the attacking third, on the other hand, and his superb shooting stats will see long-range salvos peppering the goal at a similar velocity to a chettah strapped to an Exocet missile. All the stats are just about spot on – Keano has lost some pace, Shearer shields the ball doggedly, Pires falls over more than Stephen Hawking on a pogo stick.
TICKLE YOUR BELLY
While all these improvements help make PES4 even more realistic, there’s one hige overriding change that takes the realism factor right up to 11. Recognising the fact that most football matches are tight affairs, usually with just a single goal separating teams, PES4’s overall gameplay has been given a more competitive slant. Unless you’re playing a vastly inferior team you can expect a real battle to get your nose in front and claim the three points. Scoring isn’t easy, and nor should it be – when the opposition are no mugs you can’t expect them to lie down and let you tickle their belly with goals. They’re going to fight for every ball, close down space, try to retain possession and attack with purpose. Put the game on the five-star difficulty level and even accomplished PES veterans will find it a real challenge (a six-star version which verges on the masochistic can be unlocked in the PES shop).
As far as we’re concerned this is a brilliant, and brave move by legendary producer Seabass and his team at Konami Tokyo. Many gamers just want to win matches and score loads of goals in the process (you can still do this on the lesser difficulty settings, of course) but PES has never been about casual arcade-style footie. This is the football fan’s football game and those of us who love God’s own game with a blind passion want to be able to turn on the PS2 and load a game that captures the eseence of football with unerring authenticy. And that’s exactly what PES does. Sure, you may have to struggle through some gritty 0-0 draws, and you’ll occasionally lay siege to the opposition’s goal for 80 minutes, fail to make that vital breakthrough, then fall victim to an injury time sucker punch. But having to strive to score goals and win games just makes it all the sweeter.
As ever there are a couple of traditional PES problems that still apply here. First off, the commentary by Peter Brackley and Trevor Brooking. It’s definitely getting better (and it’s magnificent compared to the old Chuckle Brothers pairing of Chris James and Terry Butcher) but there’s still lots of repetition and mistimed exclamations – “He’s given a penalty!” just after you’ve put the ball out for a corner. In comparison to John Motson and Ally McCoist’s FIFA 2005 commentary, PES still has plenty of work to do in this department.
NO MORE ORANGES.
Predictably, our second complaint is that PES4 still isn’t fully licensed up. Again, there have been improvements, this time major ones like signing agreements with the Dutch, Italian and Spanish first divisions, enabling Konami to feature all their teams and players complete with their correct name. So you can stick two fingers up at “Oranges 27” and wave hello to Jaap Stam at AC Milan, Edgar Davids at Inter and so on. But although this is welcome progress, there are still only 56 fully licensed teams within the game’s tally of 136 club sides, which doesn’t look good alongside FIFA 2005’s licence-flexing total accuracy. Our main gripe is that that British teams haven’t yet been signed up, resulting in Merseyside Blues (Everton), North London (Arsenal) and lots more daft monikers breaking PES4’s spell of realism. Having said that, the vast majority of players (including the Brits) have their correct names, so the situation is nowhere near as bad as it used to be.
Course, neither of these problems has even the remotest bearing on the most important area – gameplay. Out on the pitch, PES4 is in a league of its own. We’ve tried to find something to moan about, we really have, it’s our job, but the quality of the football can’t be faulted – even the offside trap works perfectly now. Its rivals may be improving but that gap isn’t getting any smaller. PES4 is Schmeichel in nets, Beckenbauer in defence, Maradona in midfield and Pele up front. Every area of the park, every aspect of football has been nailed. Next year they’ll better it, somehow they always do, but for now PES4 is the greatest footie game of all time and a cast-iron must buy unless you’re mad or depise football.
VERDICT
GRAPHICS - 9 - Glorious visuals and peerless animation
SOUND - 7 - The commentary is stuck in the Conference
GAMEPLAY - 10 - Sublimely realistic football genius
LIFESPAN - 10 - Master League kust keeps on going
Still not as good as actually playing football with your legs but, worryingly, ot’s getting there. A masterpiece.
DETAILS
Price: £39.,99
Players: 1 – 8
60Hz Mode, Widescreen and Surround Sound all supported.
PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 4 REVIEW.
Realising you've forgotten the missus' birthday just as you hear her key in the door. Turning on CD:UK to the words, "Now here's Robbie Williams with his hip hop version of the Beatles classic, In My Life . Sharing a cell with a 20- stone tattoed murderer known as 'Anal' Arthur? Bah, pass the soap, big man. As far as we’re concerned, these nightmare scenarios are mere trifles compared to the definition of real fear; the possibility that Pro Evolution Soccer 4 might not be that good. Yes, we’ve been staring into the abyss for the past few weeks. The Japanese version of PES 4, Winning Eleven 8, arrived in August suffering from serious slowdown when a number of players were on-screen at the same time (corners were particularly problematic). Even the early UK preview code of PES4 retained this juddery framerate during crowd scenes. We were terrified. What if they’d broken PES? It didn’t bear thinking about.
THE NEW RELIGION
And so it came to pass that we took possession of the first finished copy of PES4 in existence, hand shaking not only with the usual excitement, but with more than a little dread. Ten minutes, a 2-1 victory over Tim and all was alright with the world. PES4 is flawless footballing genius, a 10/10 masterpiece that runs rings around PES3. This is no cult anymore: this is the New Religion.
Where PES3 was a quantum leap in quality over PES2 thanks to a complete overhaul of the animation system, PES4 satisfies itself with refining all that was good about its predecessor. As in real football, passing is now the most important skill to master and you really have to work to retain possession – passes are no longer magnetically drawn to the nearest teammate; you have to pick out a man and judge the pace of the ball rather than simply pressing X and letting the computer do the hard work. Don’t worry though, this doesn’t make things needlessly complicated, just more realistic, and if you’re playing short passes to nearby teammates the one-touch stuff is more fluent than its ever been.
Player AI has also been taken to a new level of authenticy. Goal-poachers such as Van-Nistelrooy play off the shoulder of their marker, timing runs to perfection and sliping through the offside trap. Defenders, meanwhile, have tightened up their act, tracking back better and covering unmarked players rather than stubbornly sticking to their area of the pitch. And there are even more individuals who play in the exact style of their real-life counterparts – Henry will drift out to the left and terrorise defences with his speed and dribbling , Sol Campbell is an absolute rock who wins everything in the air and dismissively lets attackers bounce off him, while Cristiano Ronaldo sends full-backs cross-eyed with his stepover flurries. But the most noticeable AI improvement is that players now overlap intelligently, finally enabling you to play winger and full-back properly in tandem – carry the ball forward with Beckham, suck in the left-back, then bypass him with a through ball the Neviller who’s sprinting past on the overlap ready for a cross into the box. It looks superb in action and adds a whole new dimension to your attacking options.
Stats play a much bigger part than before with player abilities now genuinely reflected out on the pitch. As proven by his displays in England’s WC Qualifiers, Alan Smith may be a hugely effective attacking pest but sometimes his control lets him down – it’s the same in PES4. Smith’s first-touch rating isn’t great so occasionally you’ll see the ball frustratingly bouncing off him, gifting possession to the opposition. Everyone knows Scholesy’s tackling can be erratic to say the least, add that to his high aggression rating and you have a recipe for stupid lunges and a big collection of yellow cards. Give the ball to the Ginger Prince in the attacking third, on the other hand, and his superb shooting stats will see long-range salvos peppering the goal at a similar velocity to a chettah strapped to an Exocet missile. All the stats are just about spot on – Keano has lost some pace, Shearer shields the ball doggedly, Pires falls over more than Stephen Hawking on a pogo stick.
TICKLE YOUR BELLY
While all these improvements help make PES4 even more realistic, there’s one hige overriding change that takes the realism factor right up to 11. Recognising the fact that most football matches are tight affairs, usually with just a single goal separating teams, PES4’s overall gameplay has been given a more competitive slant. Unless you’re playing a vastly inferior team you can expect a real battle to get your nose in front and claim the three points. Scoring isn’t easy, and nor should it be – when the opposition are no mugs you can’t expect them to lie down and let you tickle their belly with goals. They’re going to fight for every ball, close down space, try to retain possession and attack with purpose. Put the game on the five-star difficulty level and even accomplished PES veterans will find it a real challenge (a six-star version which verges on the masochistic can be unlocked in the PES shop).
As far as we’re concerned this is a brilliant, and brave move by legendary producer Seabass and his team at Konami Tokyo. Many gamers just want to win matches and score loads of goals in the process (you can still do this on the lesser difficulty settings, of course) but PES has never been about casual arcade-style footie. This is the football fan’s football game and those of us who love God’s own game with a blind passion want to be able to turn on the PS2 and load a game that captures the eseence of football with unerring authenticy. And that’s exactly what PES does. Sure, you may have to struggle through some gritty 0-0 draws, and you’ll occasionally lay siege to the opposition’s goal for 80 minutes, fail to make that vital breakthrough, then fall victim to an injury time sucker punch. But having to strive to score goals and win games just makes it all the sweeter.
As ever there are a couple of traditional PES problems that still apply here. First off, the commentary by Peter Brackley and Trevor Brooking. It’s definitely getting better (and it’s magnificent compared to the old Chuckle Brothers pairing of Chris James and Terry Butcher) but there’s still lots of repetition and mistimed exclamations – “He’s given a penalty!” just after you’ve put the ball out for a corner. In comparison to John Motson and Ally McCoist’s FIFA 2005 commentary, PES still has plenty of work to do in this department.
NO MORE ORANGES.
Predictably, our second complaint is that PES4 still isn’t fully licensed up. Again, there have been improvements, this time major ones like signing agreements with the Dutch, Italian and Spanish first divisions, enabling Konami to feature all their teams and players complete with their correct name. So you can stick two fingers up at “Oranges 27” and wave hello to Jaap Stam at AC Milan, Edgar Davids at Inter and so on. But although this is welcome progress, there are still only 56 fully licensed teams within the game’s tally of 136 club sides, which doesn’t look good alongside FIFA 2005’s licence-flexing total accuracy. Our main gripe is that that British teams haven’t yet been signed up, resulting in Merseyside Blues (Everton), North London (Arsenal) and lots more daft monikers breaking PES4’s spell of realism. Having said that, the vast majority of players (including the Brits) have their correct names, so the situation is nowhere near as bad as it used to be.
Course, neither of these problems has even the remotest bearing on the most important area – gameplay. Out on the pitch, PES4 is in a league of its own. We’ve tried to find something to moan about, we really have, it’s our job, but the quality of the football can’t be faulted – even the offside trap works perfectly now. Its rivals may be improving but that gap isn’t getting any smaller. PES4 is Schmeichel in nets, Beckenbauer in defence, Maradona in midfield and Pele up front. Every area of the park, every aspect of football has been nailed. Next year they’ll better it, somehow they always do, but for now PES4 is the greatest footie game of all time and a cast-iron must buy unless you’re mad or depise football.
VERDICT
GRAPHICS - 9 - Glorious visuals and peerless animation
SOUND - 7 - The commentary is stuck in the Conference
GAMEPLAY - 10 - Sublimely realistic football genius
LIFESPAN - 10 - Master League kust keeps on going
Still not as good as actually playing football with your legs but, worryingly, ot’s getting there. A masterpiece.
DETAILS
Price: £39.,99
Players: 1 – 8
60Hz Mode, Widescreen and Surround Sound all supported.
Kevthedrummer
Alive in the superunknown
^ sounds good
I haven't got my mag as tesco didn't have it today
I haven't got my mag as tesco didn't have it today
PES4KING05
Registered User
Paul B said:I think he's referring to this:
Clearly readable
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...have u got it today? and if so wer from. (Goin 2 sainsbury's 2 check in a min)
PES4KING05
Registered User
O, im gettin it anywho as i get ops2 every month
Lorenzinho
Registered User
Farrmark said:I have the Mag and the Demo is v good but only half of a 5min match.
Those "scans" look suspiciously like the Pictures I posted on PESFan when the Magazine dropped through my door
That's because they are!
PES4KING05
Registered User
Farrmark said:I have the Mag and the Demo is v good but only half of a 5min match.
Those "scans" look suspiciously like the Pictures I posted on PESFan when the Magazine dropped through my door
r u a subscriber?