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Pro Evo 2012 vs FIFA 12

supafly03

Registered User
I bought PES 2011 last year and played it twice, whereas i've played Fifa for the past year.

Fifa 2012 for me unless and theres drastic improvement in PES 2012.

For me it's pretty much the other way around.

I've tried(very hard) to play and like Fifa, but I just couldn't as this pass, pass, shoot system without any freedom(you'll have a guy in your face every time you'll get the ball) just doesn't suits me and isn't realistic.

Of course there are lot's of duels and tackling in today's game, but it's still not realistic that guys run at at this pace for 90 minutes and that there isn't any time/space to create something other then the typical pass, pass, pass, shoot goals of Fifa.
Also, the spacing in Fifa isn't all that great IMO, as the pitch feels like it's a little too small.

PES certainly has it's flaws and isn't perfect at all(think about the goalies etc.) but I still take this over Fifa.
 

sydney2008

Registered User
For me it's pretty much the other way around.

I've tried(very hard) to play and like Fifa, but I just couldn't as this pass, pass, shoot system without any freedom(you'll have a guy in your face every time you'll get the ball) just doesn't suits me and isn't realistic.

Of course there are lot's of duels and tackling in today's game, but it's still not realistic that guys run at at this pace for 90 minutes and that there isn't any time/space to create something other then the typical pass, pass, pass, shoot goals of Fifa.
Also, the spacing in Fifa isn't all that great IMO, as the pitch feels like it's a little too small.

PES certainly has it's flaws and isn't perfect at all(think about the goalies etc.) but I still take this over Fifa.


I was in the same situation as you were playing FIFA for long time after the feeling that PES 2011 was unplayable for sometimes ,

I`ve tried playing FIFA for more than 7 months in a row , and believe me , the gameplay sucks , i used to play with many teams , and against hundreds of players there for online mode , because offline mode is so awful for trying to get some enjoyment as you find in PES offline , whatever FIFA fans say that the gameplay is enjoyable , it`s just a joke for me ( for online and offline modes ) , the whole teams that i have played against , they all played the same way , they start the game , play to defenders , defenders change their direction , so when you go with where they are , they go to the other way , then the only option is to pass to a wing , then the wing pass to the other wing on the same line forward , and that happens after they change directions , then after , you find your team without defenders and against 3 attackers , you even can`t defend right or come back from the center to defend your team , then the opponent score a goal , i was doing that also while playing because there was no other options ,
and always in midfield just one player and the other one is so far away from the other mid , and also , always there is a center forward ( CF ) in the offside area and always caught there , that`s what FIFA is all about , we only play FIFA because the realistic movements and the 360 dribbling system ,not because a gameplay , because there is no real gameplay there , and i hope that FIFA fan boys don`t say that they have all licenses , because all players in FIFA are the same , same on the pitch and same for playing , i even can`t notice who has the ball at the moment i play with , even with messi , and even FIFA wrote any words on players shirts , you can`t notice it , because you look for babies are playing , very small players and even you see a player with your eyes , you can`t notice what`s on his shirt , that is why it`s a joke that FIFA fans are so happy with licenses :) , if PES has that is the right way , with a polish gameplay and a huge animation system , believe me , the game will be over for ( the other game ) . :)
 

MikeyM24

Registered User
You are right , and i can add that PES is better because it has the SOUL of FOOTBALL , which EA lacks to recognize or to have that matter .

It's funny, I was playing a really scrappy match the other night on PES11. But it just felt "right" and was so engrossing. I've not had that from a FIFA game for a very long time.

FIFA is 100mph pinball football. PES allows you to vary the pace, stroke the ball around and then when the time is right, hit the afterburners. I've never seen FIFA play like that, it's "hollywood football" more than anything. Pes actually attempts to convey the other side of the game, perhaps in real life the less attractive side. But sometimes a scrappy 1-0 win nicked in PES is all the more satisfying because of this.

PES' on pitch presentation (reaction shots, sub scenes and celebrations) is streets ahead of FIFA as well, it's these touches that bring the "broadcast" feel to life.

Shame they can't fix the commentary though!
 

OCKRASS

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I... we only play FIFA because the realistic movements and the 360 dribbling system ,not because a gameplay , because there is no real gameplay there , a

Sup Sydney,

I am not telling anyone to chose Fifa over PES, I am just saying that i have.

It is perfectly fine with me if you prefer PES over Fifa ...i did one time too. My point is just ppl shouldn't hate because i am liking the game that they don't ...we all can't like the same things in life or rather gaming.

To argue on one of your point, if Fifa has realistic movement and 360 dribbling how can there be no "real gameplay"?

Although we don't like to admit it, the fact is that alot of PES players like myself like Fifa because of it's basic improvements. PES is still a very robotic game. The players movement looks horrible, the ball movement looks horrible the passing is maybe Ok but overall the game is just shit.

A handful of us are still hanging on to memories ...but it is time to let go. Who the hell wants to go back to PES 6 in 2011? Who the hell wants to have to download correct names for players year after year? Who the hell wants to download kits year after year? Who the hell wants to buy a game in 2011-2012 that is not playable online? Who the hell wants PS2 movements on a next gen console? Who the fucking hell ...?

Not me anymore!


Fifa is hands down the best football game on the market today. EA has taken a broken game and made it better...better than PES. It still has its problems like all games ..but it is football not soccer.


Seabass has admitted that Fifa is better ..........why can't we?

peace
 

S-D-P

Registered User
Sup Sydney,

I am not telling anyone to chose Fifa over PES, I am just saying that i have.

It is perfectly fine with me if you prefer PES over Fifa ...i did one time too. My point is just ppl shouldn't hate because i am liking the game that they don't ...we all can't like the same things in life or rather gaming.

To argue on one of your point, if Fifa has realistic movement and 360 dribbling how can there be no "real gameplay"?

Although we don't like to admit it, the fact is that alot of PES players like myself like Fifa because of it's basic improvements. PES is still a very robotic game. The players movement looks horrible, the ball movement looks horrible the passing is maybe Ok but overall the game is just shit.

A handful of us are still hanging on to memories ...but it is time to let go. Who the hell wants to go back to PES 6 in 2011? Who the hell wants to have to download correct names for players year after year? Who the hell wants to download kits year after year? Who the hell wants to buy a game in 2011-2012 that is not playable online? Who the hell wants PS2 movements on a next gen console? Who the fucking hell ...?

Not me anymore!


Fifa is hands down the best football game on the market today. EA has taken a broken game and made it better...better than PES. It still has its problems like all games ..but it is football not soccer.


Seabass has admitted that Fifa is better ..........why can't we?

peace

As an offline game I prefer PES much more than fifa why is that so hard to understand, whats all this "we bullshit", your patronising is almost embarrassing, you almost border on fifa fanboy.

I played fifa for 4 years from 2007 to 2011 when pes was a next gen embarrassment, its a good game but very average as a football sim unless online play and fancy animations are what attracts you.

Discussing fifa and pes bores me shitless these days, but there seems to be a new age of smug cretins(okrass) who cant get there head out there arse long enough to see not everybody gets a hard on over fifa 11.
 

muzza798

Registered User
Now i believe pes plays more fluidly than fifa.

No football game ive ever seen has looked and played better than in that france germany vid. nothing

Pes has me sold this year. Fifa will provide some cheap entertainment with friends but, as has always been the case, pes is there for the long haul
 

muscularmatt

Registered User
Listen, you can call me a fanboy or an arse clown or Wendy the magic Armadillo surfer, but one fact remains. FIFA is gay and crap. If you like it, then you probably had something to do with 9/11.

Is that the sort of person we want to be associating with..?
 

Macheda

Registered User
Loved This Is Football, Had a very fun college mode were you could play at like 16-18's level, and the best diving ever and a button to freely perform two footed lunges in the air! :')
 

koutoufides

Registered User
alrighty , im a fifa player since i can remember , & am bout to jump ship :shocking:

have never played a single PES game :unsure::eek:hmy::shocking:

only play offline (98% anyway) and am loving the footage so far! looks like alot of work has gone into this years game ?

anyways will be downloading demo first thing tommorow ? (PS3)

btw -> most fifa fans will jump ship too after fifa 12 CM shites itself again !

cheers
 

BostonGoals

Registered User
I'm more of an offline player meself so I've always preferred PES, as FIFA offline is awful, plus I always felt the gameplay in FIFA was a bit empty and unrewarding.

I think we may well see some fans come back to PES this year as it looks like Konami has finally got it right, and the FIFA series peaked at 08/09 and I dont think the last few iterations have matched them.
 

shaun7

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Pes 6 is overrated. Pes 5 was better and pes 11 in my eyes was a pretty close match when you consider everything.
 
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