[PS3] Muta's J.League Exports 2015
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Muta
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You know what's funny? For ppl who donate regularly to editors this price is nothing special because they know how much effort it takes. Only ppl who take everything for granted to get free access are crying.
Here is some maths for you:
kit editing: avg 300min x 18 = 5400min
excel: avg 120min x 18 = 2160min
roster editing: avg 3min per player x avg 25 x 15 = 1125min
excel face pics for facebuilds: avg 60min x 15 = 900min
facebuilds: avg 7min x avg 25 x 15 = 2625min
_________
12210min
=203 hrs
And this is in theory, everyone knows that real numbers are higher because of short breaks and stuff.
Even when I posted all kits and stats for free in 2013, ppl still where asking for exports and finished OFs...
When all my JLeague was exclusive in WENBOF it was ripped and shared without asking. And even then you saw more ppl moaning than being thankful in threads...
This year I was asked by 2 different OF makers to join there file and was also offered some money. I refused. Simple because it's unfair to let them pay for unthankful leechers...
I'm aware that paying for these files is only interesting to ppl who really wanna play JLeague and not just to stack up their OFs, and this is good!
Either you respect my work or #$!% off
Here is some maths for you:
kit editing: avg 300min x 18 = 5400min
excel: avg 120min x 18 = 2160min
roster editing: avg 3min per player x avg 25 x 15 = 1125min
excel face pics for facebuilds: avg 60min x 15 = 900min
facebuilds: avg 7min x avg 25 x 15 = 2625min
_________
12210min
=203 hrs
And this is in theory, everyone knows that real numbers are higher because of short breaks and stuff.
Even when I posted all kits and stats for free in 2013, ppl still where asking for exports and finished OFs...
When all my JLeague was exclusive in WENBOF it was ripped and shared without asking. And even then you saw more ppl moaning than being thankful in threads...
This year I was asked by 2 different OF makers to join there file and was also offered some money. I refused. Simple because it's unfair to let them pay for unthankful leechers...
I'm aware that paying for these files is only interesting to ppl who really wanna play JLeague and not just to stack up their OFs, and this is good!
Either you respect my work or #$!% off
I know its a lot of work. I did Bundesliga kits with formulas for PES 2013 and it took a lot of hours until they were finished. Probably half of the time you calculated above - I don't know. I also did some request kits for free and there are other people, doing fantasy kits and faces of players nobody has ever heard of...
But I think this is the spirit of the community to do such things for free and to contribute. I know that not giving credits is often a problem.
I don't want to blame you, it's your decision
But I think this is the spirit of the community to do such things for free and to contribute. I know that not giving credits is often a problem.
I don't want to blame you, it's your decision
Peda69
Registered User
Do you realize you're the only one in the editor's community that ask for money for your work?
The man who creates the kitserver for PC that let you insert all the kits, leagues, balls, stadiums you want, never ask for money.
The people that creates stadium from zero for PC, never ask for money.
I'm editor since PS2 series and I never ask for money for my work.
Only ask for credit if my work is used for an OF.
The man who creates the kitserver for PC that let you insert all the kits, leagues, balls, stadiums you want, never ask for money.
The people that creates stadium from zero for PC, never ask for money.
I'm editor since PS2 series and I never ask for money for my work.
Only ask for credit if my work is used for an OF.
paul2478
Moderator
We had this discussion last year & I will say the same as then... the difference between these imports & any others is Muta has personally made every kit himself & every face himself, it's not like say the Bundesliga where everything is freely available on here. As an example for the Bundesliga every kit can be found on here as well as pretty much every players stats & every players face, for the J-League there is currently just the kit for Shimizu S-Pulse & maybe 30 player faces, this gives you everything.
Personally if I wasn't making a OF I would pay that amount straight away for the time it would save & the quality of work involved. I will post the WE 2014 J-League player database in the J-League thread shortly for anyone who want's to make the league for themselves, you will obviously have to still find player appearances & kits.
Personally if I wasn't making a OF I would pay that amount straight away for the time it would save & the quality of work involved. I will post the WE 2014 J-League player database in the J-League thread shortly for anyone who want's to make the league for themselves, you will obviously have to still find player appearances & kits.
Muta
Registered User
You are not even doing your own kit templates, c'mon...
I have started editing on Evo Web with WE10/PES6 so what? So just stop trolling me :ninja:
Peda69
Registered User
True are not my templates, but I don't steal them I ask to the creator for using them and give him credit in every kit I use them.
And I've started editing in Evo-web too but since PES3 (Camp Nou advertising, update CL fences and some faces).
By the way your data base is from WE 2014 from Konami for much you've added and created players, so...
Muta
Registered User
...and what?
Megatrom
Registered User
Muta please Mate Stats M. Maruoka -> (B. Dortmund)
Peda69
Registered User
What? :shocking:
You are using Konami's work.
You can't ask for money for something that isn't entirely yours.
Well, that not right. He didn't use all of Konamis work. He only use the WE14 Stats. Than he build the trikots and faces.
There could be one other problem - Konami has the privilege to sell the J.League (that means faces, trikots and co) so he could get trouble with konami and the J.League for selling something without have the privilege to do that.
But its the same with the OF guys, because they build the Bundesliga in it, so they could get trouble with EA and the DFL for making OFs with Bundesliga Teams.
There could be one other problem - Konami has the privilege to sell the J.League (that means faces, trikots and co) so he could get trouble with konami and the J.League for selling something without have the privilege to do that.
But its the same with the OF guys, because they build the Bundesliga in it, so they could get trouble with EA and the DFL for making OFs with Bundesliga Teams.
paul2478
Moderator
Megatrom
Registered User
very very bad stats mate:no:They are already in the Bundesliga thread
Muta
Registered User
Well, that not right. He didn't use all of Konamis work. He only use the WE14 Stats. Than he build the trikots and faces.
There could be one other problem - Konami has the privilege to sell the J.League (that means faces, trikots and co) so he could get trouble with konami and the J.League for selling something without have the privilege to do that.
But its the same with the OF guys, because they build the Bundesliga in it, so they could get trouble with EA and the DFL for making OFs with Bundesliga Teams.
Although Konami has lost JLeague sponsorship this year^^ This is why a JLeague DLC for 2015 is in doubt imo.
Peda69
Registered User
But its the same with the OF guys, because they build the Bundesliga in it, so they could get trouble with EA and the DFL for making OFs with Bundesliga Teams.
Isn't the same problem, because nobody is selling the bundesliga teams.