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Putting curve on a shot...

idiotboy

Registered User
I see all these wonderful free kick videos where the players put an amazing amount of spin\curve on the ball and I can't seem to make the ball move that much. Is there something special you need to do to get that much spin and curve on the ball? I'm trying to do it by moving the analog stick after I hit the shot. Am I supposed to be pressing a certain button as well as moving the stick?

Thanks
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
It's all down to the individual players curling stat, the higher the number the more curl you'll get. I knew there was a use for it somewhere.
 

Rangers_Fureva

Registered User
After you hit a shot hold down L1 for left curl or R1 for right curl. The longer you hold it in the more curve you get.
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
That doesn't make any difference in open play, and in free kicks, it changes the direction if you press when the power bar is on. (ie. if you aim left, then shoot/pass and hit R1 to send it right, foxing human foe. Obviously mirror this for the left sided option.)
 

Rangers_Fureva

Registered User
jMz said:
That doesn't make any difference in open play, and in free kicks, it changes the direction if you press when the power bar is on. (ie. if you aim left, then shoot/pass and hit R1 to send it right, foxing human foe. Obviously mirror this for the left sided option.)

He was asking how you increase curv during free-kicks so clearly it does make a difference. Also i said after you hit it press either L1 or R1, about it changing direction, you simply aim wider so it curves back towards goal. I'v scored plenty like this.
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
Like I said.....
Direction is not the same thing as curl.
Direction change is on R1 and L1, curl is with the d-pad/analogue stick.
You know I'm right.
 

Rangers_Fureva

Registered User
jMz said:
Like I said.....
Direction is not the same thing as curl.
Direction change is on R1 and L1, curl is with the d-pad/analogue stick.
You know I'm right.

:laugh: I know your wrong.:tongue:

Seriously though, i have used L1 and R1 plenty of times and they add a hell of a lot of curl onto the ball. I have seen the amount of curl it adds when i take a free kick with Ronaldinho. It may be the fact that you have different controls from me or whatever.:cool:
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
No, it's just the timing of L1 or R1 press. You can take it from me, these buttons do nothing to affect curl, but they do allow you to craft clever curlers by aiming wide of the mark and dragging it in, which you are probably describing.
Trust me, I'm a PES doctor.
 

Rangers_Fureva

Registered User
jMz said:
No, it's just the timing of L1 or R1 press. You can take it from me, these buttons do nothing to affect curl, but they do allow you to craft clever curlers by aiming wide of the mark and dragging it in, which you are probably describing.
Trust me, I'm a PES doctor.

Tis exactly what i do:cool: Although i make a habbit of holding the analogue in the direction i want curl. Whatever then, i step down.:laugh:
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
Rangers_Fureva said:
Tis exactly what i do:cool: Although i make a habbit of holding the analogue in the direction i want curl. Whatever then, i step down.:laugh:
In life, I'm just another bloke, but on this forum I am like a God. There isn't much/anything I don't know about the PES series.
Not being arrogant, just truthful.

Also being an annoying kind of person, I pick on people with lesser knowledge than myself. If you read me in the right light though, you'll realise I'm just poking fun, in a Jimmy Carr kind of way.

Peace over Xmas my brother.
 

Rangers_Fureva

Registered User
jMz said:
In life, I'm just another bloke, but on this forum I am like a God. There isn't much/anything I don't know about the PES series.
Not being arrogant, just truthful.

Also being an annoying kind of person, I pick on people with lesser knowledge than myself. If you read me in the right light though, you'll realise I'm just poking fun, in a Jimmy Carr kind of way.

Peace over Xmas my brother.

:laugh: I sensed it after your 3rd post.
God...if you say so:tongue:

Merry crimbo to you too.:cool:
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
Rangers_Fureva said:
:laugh: I sensed it after your 3rd post.
God...if you say so:tongue:

Merry crimbo to you too.:cool:
You sensed it?
I knew my powers were great but........

Check out my pedigree if you don't believe I'm a God, I've got a sticky thread with over 46,000 views, and hardly an incoherent post on the entire forum.

Did I mention I'm an Insight Veteran too?

I love showing off, me.
 

Adams1104

Registered User
Explain properly what you mean with the R1 and L1, one was saying you press it as you wind up the shot, one person was saying press it after the shot has been taken. Can someone actually conclude this all so we have one single answer please.

Thanks.

PS. What about shots/long balls from normal play?
 

Rangers_Fureva

Registered User
jMz said:
You sensed it?
I knew my powers were great but........

Check out my pedigree if you don't believe I'm a God, I've got a sticky thread with over 46,000 views, and hardly an incoherent post on the entire forum.

Did I mention I'm an Insight Veteran too?

I love showing off, me.

Shaddup you showoff.:tongue:
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
Adams1104 said:
Explain properly what you mean with the R1 and L1, one was saying you press it as you wind up the shot, one person was saying press it after the shot has been taken. Can someone actually conclude this all so we have one single answer please.

Thanks.

PS. What about shots/long balls from normal play?
To change kicking direction in a free kick, press R1 or L1 as the power bar is on the screen. Pressing it before or after will do nothing, maybe leading you to believe it's done something. It hasn't.
In open play (not a free kick) it does nothing for your shot, as R1 is the low chip.
 

Adams1104

Registered User
So how can you be aiming your free-kicks properly if you're using the R1 L1 thing. Surely its really hit and miss. And again, surely isn't it alot easier to just bend it into the empty space of the net.

Fair do's. cheers for the info, didn't know that.

I know you can put curl on a long ball by just pressing directions just after the balls been hit. Think its the same for shots. Also know that Triangle dips shots and long balls and free-kicks. And am i right in saying that if you press R2 JUST after you hit the shot it will put back spin on it?? have tried it a few times and only with one positive result:

http://media.putfile.com/Adriano-Screamer

Adrianos R2 shot, it rises all of 35 yards and is still rising by the time its beaten the goalie. You heard anything about R2 shots just AFTER the balls been striked?
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
Adams1104 said:
So how can you be aiming your free-kicks properly if you're using the R1 L1 thing. Surely its really hit and miss. And again, surely isn't it alot easier to just bend it into the empty space of the net.
As is ALWAYS the case with PES, it depends on the player, and the situation.
OK, say I'm taking a free kick, 25 yds out, to the left side of the box (facing the goal). I'm playing my mate, I aim for the top left corner so he thinks I'm going to dink one over the wall. Instead though, I press R1 as I'm holding shoot to go instead for the far right corner. It's not a huge gameplay factor, it just lets you modify your shot. It could be the only gap you can see, or you might just want to show off.
Yes it is hit and miss, and it might be easier to bend it into the open net, but it allows you to do that while making the other player think otherwise.
So although it's there, you may never use it, but aren't you glad Konami are still putting new stuff in, no matter how trivial?

Adams1104 said:
I know you can put curl on a long ball by just pressing directions just after the balls been hit. Think its the same for shots.
And am i right in saying that if you press R2 JUST after you hit the shot it will put back spin on it?? have tried it a few times and only with one positive result:
I've summed that up in the last bit...

Adams1104 said:
Also know that Triangle dips shots and long balls and free-kicks.
You're right.

Adams1104 said:
You heard anything about R2 shots just AFTER the balls been striked?
If you press R2 just after you strike (ie. while the power bar is on) the player will use the side of his foot or the instep to make a more accurate strike. Doesn't always garuantee a goal (nothing does!), but can help if the angle is tight, or you just want to roll it past the keeper into the corner. With plenty of power, it should be a venoumous effort. A player with high shooting stats, middle shooting star and a tap of R2 can score some truly magnificent goals.

I intend to slay a myth here.....
Once the ball has left the player's foot by even 1 inch, you have no more control over what it does. Contrary to popular belief, no matter if it's a free kick, open play, whatever, you can't change the direction or curve of the ball AT ALL once the ball has left the players foot!
You tell him what you want him to do by pressing the buttons, the code works out how likely he is to pull it off based on stats and situation, it is calculated in real time (split seconds) and then the player reacts and tries to do as you say. So it is possible that you will never do the exact same thing twice.

And I've read that from Seabass himself. So there.

P.s If you don't know who Seabass is, you should. Shame on you.
 

Adams1104

Registered User
jMz said:
I intend to slay a myth here.....
Once the ball has left the player's foot by even 1 inch, you have no more control over what it does. Contrary to popular belief, no matter if it's a free kick, open play, whatever, you can't change the direction or curve of the ball AT ALL once the ball has left the players foot!
You tell him what you want him to do by pressing the buttons, the code works out how likely he is to pull it off based on stats and situation, it is calculated in real time (split seconds) and then the player reacts and tries to do as you say. So it is possible that you will never do the exact same thing twice.

And I've read that from Seabass himself. So there.

P.s If you don't know who Seabass is, you should. Shame on you.

I know who Seabass is. no doubt..

But the thing about not being able to change the flight of the ball after it's left your foot is essentially bollox. Like you agreed, you can press Triangle to make the ball dip whilst it's in mid flight.. but i swear the way you hold the direction after a ball is kicked can influence the swerve, Even if it will only go the way it initially sets off, you can add to it with a direction push...

http://media.putfile.com/curl-pes5 (watch)
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
Adams1104 said:
I know who Seabass is. no doubt..

But the thing about not being able to change the flight of the ball after it's left your foot is essentially bollox. Like you agreed, you can press Triangle to make the ball dip whilst it's in mid flight.. but i swear the way you hold the direction after a ball is kicked can influence the swerve, Even if it will only go the way it initially sets off, you can add to it with a direction push...

http://media.putfile.com/curl-pes5 (watch)

It may seem like that, but like I say, it's all applied before the ball leaves his foot. If you let go of the pad completely once he has struck the ball, it will do exactly the same thing as if you keep hold of left or right.

Also in that clip, I notice all the players have high curl stats. And I'm not doubting that you can curl the ball a lot, but like I say, just cos you are holding onto left or right after it's struck doesn't mean it's making a difference. The timing is so tight, you'd hardly notcie, but trust me, it's a fact. I only take my PES info from the highest source, and wouldn't quote it unless I'm 100% sure. But it does no harm by holding the direction so it makes no difference really. You set the direction of the pass with the way the player is facing and which players he can see, the code auto aims so much of a long pass, and you put the curl and power on, so if you are aiming 60 yards away, you put plenty of power on, then add curl, a player like Beckham will curl it to the mans feet.
Also I've curled many a cross or shot without trying to, so this further backs up what I am saying. If the situation dictates curl, then that's what will happen.

Try this, press long pass on it's own. Then once the power bar and the ball has gone, press a direction, and you'll see bot all happen. Even without a direction pressed you'll see a little bit of curl. Try it ten times, then try it with curl ten times. You'll see exactly what I mean. If it's going to curl into the top corner, it's because the player is good (or lucky) enough to do it.

The guy who made the game can't be wrong. Can he?
 
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