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Realistically animated crowds

The_Knight

Registered User
Submitted by Knight_md

How long I've been playing and what I like about PES:

I've been playing since PES4 on the PC. I converted from FIFA because PES simply offered a more realistic and authentic soccer experience back then.

My suggestion is: Realistically animated crowds

Now that PES2010 has 3D crowds, I've noticed they are mostly just sitting like robots with a blank look, which is at most times away from the action:
e.g.


However, I propose injecting a few animations to make this crowd life-like, adding immensely to the atmosphere, especially if PES2011 finally uses more realistic camera views (Vote for Realistic customizable cameras for PES here: http://forums.pesfan.com/showthread.php?t=220456)
All other sport games (NHL, Top Spin, NBA...etc.) Have near-flawless crowds animations.... with a ULTRA-REALISTIC atmopshere:
e.g.
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Here's an example of randomized 3D crowds' reaction of a winning team during a game using the "Massive" engine:

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The crowds' reaction should reflect the action in the game. The animations would be divided into categories, each category has many varieties:

1) Scored goal jumping
e.g. First they stand... then they jump, and clap/cheer...
e.g.
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2) +2 goal margin winning team celebrations:
e.g. The Mexican Wave

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3) Winning team animations
e.g.
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4) Normal supporting animations:
e.g. The normal supporting animations that crowds do to motivate their teams

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as well as others such as...

5) Anti-referee animations (expressing dismay/frustration over a bad call against the home team)
e.g.
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6) Conceding goal and Missed opportunity/penalty disappointment
e.g. See the crowds behind the goal as they cover their heads...
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7) Baseline animations which are going on all the time, so that the crowds are never sitting still like robots (e.g. somebody talking, walking up/down the stairs, waving, moving, standing)....etc.
e.g.
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This will all add a big deal to the game's atmosphere making it a lot more realistic and exciting, especially if KONAMI goes for more realistic camera options which show the crowd ingame... which you can vote for over here: http://forums.pesfan.com/showthread.php?t=220456

These realistic camera angles would make the crowds visible for most of the game, like on TV.


PLEASE VOTE and TELL OTHERS ABOUT IT! .... WE NEED +100 VOTES.....Thanks :)
VOTE HERE: http://forums.pesfan.com/showthread.php?t=220955

PS - Crowd animations do NOT cause online lag, because this data is not transmitted online. It is only for your PC/console, as in all other sports games...

PLEASE VOTE!
 

vietfan09

Registered User
wat a waste of videos about only Realistic Crowed , PES 2010 will surely have some realistic crowed , not as good as NBA 10 but at least it somewat satisfy us as a PES GAMER . Don't worry , u wont be mad when u get this game PES 10 . The crowed will be fully realistic trust me on this !
 

LakoLako

Registered User
Hmmm, well I can see you put a lot of effort into procuring all these crowd videos from youtube.
My view is that as long as they crowd are 3-D,varied and make some real noise depending on various scenario's im happy.
You have a good point, but I don't think Konami have the graphical power to implement that many crowd celebrations or features.
 

ykl

Registered User
its true, konami should aware that why the other game developber can make it and konami doesn't? As we can judge from NBA2K9, Although their crowd animations seems not really perfect, but at least they put more afford on this part..( their crowd animations more colourful,realism and have more various type of people or crowd.)
 

Iniesta

Registered User
Don't go crazy with the videos. In regards to the crowd reaction, I agree with you one hundred percent. The NBA crowd looks especially realistic, and it is my belief that should be brought in for the next Pro Evolution. The current crowds are lacklustre at best, and in my opinion look very much like they are straight from the PS1 era.
 
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