really annoying problems? can you help?

[holbrook99]

hello guys, i have been playing pes 2009 since release and im having some REALLY annoying problems that i am hoping you guys will be able to help me out with.

1. for some reason 50% of the time when i shoot my player tries a lob instead of a normal shot, i am not holding any of the shoulder buttons, only square?? it just lobs the ball up in front of the player with no power, i know its trying a lob because the commentator always says "hes tried the chip" or "he lobs the keeper".

i have looked around the web and nobody else seems to be having this problem!! could it be a faulty disk?? really out of ideas as to why this is happening...

2. How do you cross??? every time i cross it just goes slow and high into the near post and is ridiculously easy for my opponent to defend against?


3. How do you slide the ball into the net rather than whack it??? whenever i do get my player to shoot (see 1.) he just powers it at goal, if im through on goal i want to just side foot it, slide it under the keeper? i try to just tap the square button for less power and to keep it on the ground, but problem 1 occurs 99% of the time if i only tap square??


really hope you guys can help me with these problems as they are really hindering my enjoyment of this game.

thanks

paul

 

[milly_willy]

hello guys, i have been playing pes 2009 since release and im having some REALLY annoying problems that i am hoping you guys will be able to help me out with.

1. for some reason 50% of the time when i shoot my player tries a lob instead of a normal shot, i am not holding any of the shoulder buttons, only square?? it just lobs the ball up in front of the player with no power, i know its trying a lob because the commentator always says "hes tried the chip" or "he lobs the keeper".

i have looked around the web and nobody else seems to be having this problem!! could it be a faulty disk?? really out of ideas as to why this is happening...

2. How do you cross??? every time i cross it just goes slow and high into the near post and is ridiculously easy for my opponent to defend against?


3. How do you slide the ball into the net rather than whack it??? whenever i do get my player to shoot (see 1.) he just powers it at goal, if im through on goal i want to just side foot it, slide it under the keeper? i try to just tap the square button for less power and to keep it on the ground, but problem 1 occurs 99% of the time if i only tap square??


really hope you guys can help me with these problems as they are really hindering my enjoyment of this game.

thanks

paul

1. Are you holding r1? I've noticed a few times when i hold r1 when i shoot it tries a little lob. But this doesn't happen all the time.

2. There are 3 ways to cross. 1. A high cross. You do this just by taping circle once. 2. A low cross. You do this by tapping circle twice. This adds a bit more power. 3. Across the ground. Tap circle 3x to power the ball across the floor. You can also do an early cross by holding L1 and pressing circle before you get into the box.

3. Hold R2 when shooting and aim for the corners. This is a more controlled shot and will take some power of the shot.

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Hope this helped.

 

[holbrook99]

1. Are you holding r1? I've noticed a few times when i hold r1 when i shoot it tries a little lob. But this doesn't happen all the time.

2. There are 3 ways to cross. 1. A high cross. You do this just by taping circle once. 2. A low cross. You do this by tapping circle twice. This adds a bit more power. 3. Across the ground. Tap circle 3x to power the ball across the floor. You can also do an early cross by holding L1 and pressing circle before you get into the box.

3. Hold R2 when shooting and aim for the corners. This is a more controlled shot and will take some power of the shot.

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Hope this helped.

im definatley not holding r1 when shooting!! im not touching any of the shoulder buttons...
i knew about the 3 ways to cross its the single press of circle cross im having probs with, it always goes to the near post...
and the r2 finesse shot isnt working half the time because the player keeps trying the lob!!

thanks for trying though, but still in need of help:crymore:

 

[milly_willy]

im definatley not holding r1 when shooting!! im not touching any of the shoulder buttons...
i knew about the 3 ways to cross its the single press of circle cross im having probs with, it always goes to the near post...
and the r2 finesse shot isnt working half the time because the player keeps trying the lob!!

thanks for trying though, but still in need of help:crymore:

I'm not sure about the lobbing problems. As for your crosses going to the near post hold R2 and cross so the ball gets more height and gets further into the box.

 

[Gaffa08]

You sure your button is not jammed? Even though it may not look like its jammed, the mechanism inside the control might be fubar...

Have your tried another control?

 

[holbrook99]

You sure your button is not jammed? Even though it may not look like its jammed, the mechanism inside the control might be fubar...

Have your tried another control?

yep tried 2 controllers and same problem with both?? and also if r1 was jammed my players would be constantly sprinting wouldnt they?

 

[Gaffa08]

yep tried 2 controllers and same problem with both?? and also if r1 was jammed my players would be constantly sprinting wouldnt they?

No...

R1 = sprint
L1 = Lob

Have you changed the mapping for the keys by any chance?
Do you have PES on PC or console?

 

[sonofocelot]

for number 3, i have a little tip.

I know HUNDREDS of people who play this game, and I'm the only person I know who does it.

Start shooting with manual passes if you don;t already, it takes hours of practise to get good, but it's so worth it, looks more realistic, and is 100 times more satisfying when you score

 

[holbrook99]

No...

R1 = sprint
L1 = Lob

Have you changed the mapping for the keys by any chance?
Do you have PES on PC or console?

ps3...i know l1 is high lob, but somebody on another forum told me that if you hold r1 when you shoot its a little low lob over the keeper?

and no not changed the buttons at all??

 

[sonofocelot]

R1 does a little lob if you hit R1 as the power gauge is going up, if you're holding R1 already it's not affected

 

[cmcginty7]

I'm having the same problem - I use R1 to burst away from defenders then my shot is nearly always a weak chip. I've tried releasing R1 before shooting and keeping R1 pressed until the shot is hit but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

To be honest, when I do manage to get a proper shot off it tends to fly over the bar - having real problems with this!!

My crosses are also poor - either too weak at the near post or far too heavy clearing the back post by quite a bit.

Surely it's not just me and holbrook99 suffering from this?????

Aaaaaaargh!

 

[CAN7ONA]

It maybe that the buttons need cleaning from the inside. Had a similar problem when I had my PS2. Dust gathers inside....

 

[lexandro]

Or it could be his timing and play style. Ive noticed that if your player is stretching for the ball as he shoots 9/10 times it a chip shot. Plus pressing shoot more than once will activate a chip shot also, so dont press twice thinking you can add in more power because you cant.

 

[MatTheCat]

hello guys, i have been playing pes 2009 since release and im having some REALLY annoying problems that i am hoping you guys will be able to help me out with.

1. for some reason 50% of the time when i shoot my player tries a lob instead of a normal shot, i am not holding any of the shoulder buttons, only square?? it just lobs the ball up in front of the player with no power, i know its trying a lob because the commentator always says "hes tried the chip" or "he lobs the keeper".

i have looked around the web and nobody else seems to be having this problem!! could it be a faulty disk?? really out of ideas as to why this is happening...

2. How do you cross??? every time i cross it just goes slow and high into the near post and is ridiculously easy for my opponent to defend against?


3. How do you slide the ball into the net rather than whack it??? whenever i do get my player to shoot (see 1.) he just powers it at goal, if im through on goal i want to just side foot it, slide it under the keeper? i try to just tap the square button for less power and to keep it on the ground, but problem 1 occurs 99% of the time if i only tap square??


really hope you guys can help me with these problems as they are really hindering my enjoyment of this game.

thanks

paul

Hello Holbrook.

Fear not, help is at hand.

1. There are many factors which influence shooting. But as a general rule, if u want more whack in your shots, then double tap the SHOOT button. The rules of power and height still apply (i.e. more the power bar raises, the higher the shot is likely to be) and it is a very fine line between getting it top corner or way over the bar. Best just to stick with quick double tap till u get it right.

2. Yeah, the crossing is a bit of a cunt and the system is highly unrealistic. There are two main things that determine the velocity of a cross:

a) where ur waiting attackers are positioned and to which one u are pointing ur stick/d-pad at, and

b) Distance between player and ball when CROSS function is activated. (i.e., more of a run up the better)

c) But most crucially, the speed at which either your player or the ball is moving when it is crossed. If your player is sprinting fast when u cross the ball, just watch that ball go pinging into box. If u are slow dribbling, twisting and turning, then u are more likely to play a soft floaty lob into the box which will be easily cleared.

Of course, there are other factors which also influence the crossing, many of them just as unrealistic as factor (c) above and there are always exceptions to the rule. But try the above, U WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE.

(U could also try a lobbed manual pass for an assured velocity of crossed ball)

3) I have noticed no realiable way to slide the ball into net other than keeping the power bar low and/or double tapping SHOOT button. I think whether the player strikes a daisy cutter or not depends on how he makes contact with the ball which is not something the gamer as full control over.

 

[mitchy2711]

the crossing system has been tweaked a little we used to double tap for a low trajectory cross to the middle of the box, now we still need to do that but the difference this year is the length of time between the two taps, the first tap distinguishes the length/pace of the cross and then the second or third tap distinguish the height third being a daisycutter. and obviously player position and defender position changes this slightly.

 

[MatTheCat]

the Crossing System Has Been Tweaked A Little We Used To Double Tap For A Low Trajectory Cross To The Middle Of The Box, Now We Still Need To Do That But The Difference This Year Is The Length Of Time Between The Two Taps, The First Tap Distinguishes The Length/pace Of The Cross And Then The Second Or Third Tap Distinguish The Height Third Being A Daisycutter. And Obviously Player Position And Defender Position Changes This Slightly.

EDIT:

The above certainly rings true when running with ball at feet.

When T-ing up a cross.....CROSS button Depressed determines distance/velocity of cross when 2nd or 3rd tap of CROSS button is executed. Fail to tap the CROSS button subsequently will result in soft lofted cross ball.

 

[holbrook99]

i am stil having really annoying problems here???? the shooting thing is killing the game for me...8/10 times when im shooting the player is trying a low lob shot and its so annoying!!

ive played on my freinds pes 2009 and it isnt happening so it definatley something to do with either my ps3, my copy of the game or my control pads??

i have 2 controllers and it happens with both so i dont think its them as it would be a coincedence for both controllers to be knackered...

cant see how it could be my ps3 or my copy of the game either though so i am just really stuck??

 

[scuzzelbutt]

Sounds like you have changed the lob shooting type and lobbing with pressing the shoot button more than once , check the button configuration settings and make sure the lob can only be done by holding the r1 rather than a double tap of the shoot button

 

[holbrook99]

Sounds like you have changed the lob shooting type and lobbing with pressing the shoot button more than once , check the button configuration settings and make sure the lob can only be done by holding the r1 rather than a double tap of the shoot button

thanks for trying mate, but thats definatley not the case, ive checked all that and no matter what setting it is on im having the same problem, and im not pressing it twice anyway, this is definatley something more serious and annoying?

 

[j.white]

i am stil having really annoying problems here???? the shooting thing is killing the game for me...8/10 times when im shooting the player is trying a low lob shot and its so annoying!!

ive played on my freinds pes 2009 and it isnt happening so it definatley something to do with either my ps3, my copy of the game or my control pads??

i have 2 controllers and it happens with both so i dont think its them as it would be a coincedence for both controllers to be knackered...

cant see how it could be my ps3 or my copy of the game either though so i am just really stuck??

Try stwiching the shooting buttons, or check to see if its the right one m8