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somebody please help!!!!

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20yrdscreamer

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i have tried to work this out for myself but it is really annoyin me now cos i dont know the answer so could sum body please help me with this? the main problem in my ml is the fatigue levels of my players. you know, the green bars with the little brown ones underneath. well after every ml game the fatigue levels are really bad and i have to practically rotate my whole squad because it is that bad. this in itself is really annoying me but there are two other things that are really bugging me. the other thing is that in the manual it shows a picture of the fatigue bars and then goes on to explain that " the bars will be displayed in the cup the league and the master league if the accumulated fatigue is turned ON" so this to me sounds like in the ml u can turn it off but when i started a new ml the option isnt there so what the hell is the manual talking about. also i looked in the manual and read about the training in the ml. "intra-team training can be held during the season to condition your team. no matter how many times a week this is done the results will not change and it is only complete when ok is displayed on the screen" so i did it for about fifteen minutes and still no ok came up on the screen. why?! basically is what am i doing wrong and can i turn the fatigue off, why doesnt ok get displyed when i am training and how do i keep the fatigue levels to a minimum? thank you:angry;)
 
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Fab

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Dont think you can do much about your players getting tired quickly, just keep playing it doesnt really make much of a difference apart from there more prone to injury.

There is no way of turning the fatigue off on master league, its always ON.

When you condition your team in training, just keep playing in training until it says OK.
 
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20yrdscreamer

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so so u mean just keep training as in "playing a match against ur subs training like u did in pro eve 4" until it says complete. how long roughly does it take til it says complete cos i have litterally been playin for 15 mins today and it stil didnt say ok
 
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patcheen

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No, I don't think so mate. Conditioning in Pes5 is differnet.
It's a seperate option. It does it straight away when you select ok!
 
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kingt

Registered User
Re: the fatigue. This might not help much but I do know what you mean. When I first started, I clocked up the old PES points by winning a load of cups with England. The fatigue suffered by my players during these times was laughable. Even the likes of Lampard were getting fatigue levels after one match (Fatigue being the thin bar underneath the bigger one). I was displeased to say the least. I switched accumulated fatigue off but the game compansated by giving me quite a few blueand several grey arrow players each match. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Thinking that tournament schedules might be more taxing then a league, I then tried to start a normal league (Not master league) and played one match as Chelsea. Again, before the second match, Lamps again had a fatigue bar. I was getting seriously pee'd off. here comes the really unhelpful bit:

I then started a Master league as Charlton, just as an example, and Icannot remember their fatigue levels after the match.

I then began the ML again and created a team from scratch. The one where you get the standard set of players but can pick whoever you want to add to them. I chose one or two big names (J Cole and Rooney) and 5 other squad players. When I began ML with this team than fatigue was back to it's normal PES4 ways. I don't know why it was different, I just know it was. Rooney can go 8 games in a row without picking any fatigue up now.

Re: the training, that lark where you play against your subs is purely for a kickabout, so you can try a few things in the relative comfort of the training pitch. It will never say OK. Choose the other option if you must, the Regulate Condition one. It will turn some greens into yellows and reds but it'll also turn some into blues. There is a way to cheat on this if you want to know.

Sorry it's not the best of help but I do know your pain. I also know there is a solution, just not the details!
 
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kingt

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I can say with 100% assurance that yes, when I started the game by doing that, starting with Minanda and all those idiots, then adding in some established players for free, the fatigue suffered was much less and has remained that way ever since over the last 3 seasons. It was a huge relief.

You still have to rotate players from time to time and try to sub some tired looking players around 60 mins but I always did this in PES4 anyway.

Wright Phillips and Aimar are inexplicably quick to tire during matches but sensible use of them means that fatigue only creeps in a little bit after 3, 4 or 5 games.

I earned myself over 12,000 PES points before starting ML. Like I said, I suffered frequent inexplicable fatigue nightmares while doing this. The 12,000 bought me the edit leagues option and the starting ML points thing in the PES shop. Some might call it cheating but I only knocked it up to 12,000. You start with 10,000 automatically if you pick an established team.
 
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kingt

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Yep, much better. I now have 14 'proper' players and am looking to expand on that when this season ends in 5 weeks. Smacked Chelsea 6 - 1 last week in FA cup quarter final on 4*. That was a bit of a freak result, I must admit, but they've not beaten me in 4 matches so far.
 
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RSI

Registered User
fatigue was a big problem when i started out on pes5 ML. after 2 seasons i've noticed its barely an issue anymore and i rarely need to rotate my squad. i wonder if the formation your team plays might have some effect as well? since i've been playing 2 at the back and wing backs on the half way line my players are barely tiring, even Ashley Cole who was notorious for fatigue before. hmmmm. not sure if that helps.
 
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JimMitchell

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Surely it comes down to stamina rating whether players tire? I have a guy called Fernando on my team in ML and he was able to play all but one game in Div 2 and he had a high stamina stat. In Div 1, I had more players with stamina stats of around 90 and mostly I can keep the same starting 11. In particular, I have Alan Smith and Luque up front and they start every game.
 
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RedBlooded

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I'm finding the fatigue levels are improving all the time, I have 4 or 5 ever-presents now in the League (though tend to rotate for cup games).
 
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daveyboy41

Registered User
I am Man Utd in my ML and I dont have any problems with fatigue. I started another ML with Arsenal and had really bad fatigue.
 
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TomEvo5

Registered User
What is the green bar then if the brown thin bar is fatigue? and what do those arrows mean?
i found it difficult with fatigue in the ml but found a way of getting over it with some players. If you rotate too much they become 2 unfit, but if u play a man for about 4-6 matches and take him off before the end in all most of those games and no mater what his fatigue the next game still play him. The fatigue level will improve and he will be able to become an everpresent. I'm a boro fan and with southgate,boateng,mcmahon,rochemback,mendieta,quedrue and pogatetz they are all ever presents except the odd cup game. The reason i have no strikers on ever present is because boro have so many i find it irrisistable to keep the same strikers on the pitch. any how can any answer my questions lol ?
 
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