Tackling!

[Steve Justice]

Fine, tackling is only harder because of the abilities of the striker.
Are you saying, Steve Justice, that Heskey can peform Ronaldo Chop's in real life.

No, but if you want to throw that into the arguement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwGIGOQnWhg

Yes the vid is taking the piss out of Heskey, but are you telling me that Heskey can move like that in real life?

 

[markcross]

I like soccer mums, lots of them are lovely. Nothing wrong with being a yank who likes soccer. Those who are into it know their shit, it's those who have no interest in the game are a mare to deal with it. I'm
English btw been living here for 12 yrs, and have to say don't knock the place when your views are manufactured by what others may say, or the retarded media, it's a great place to live and I'm being 100% sincere.

respect dude, i was just yankin the yanks chain tbh, but i always respect a gentleman and u sir have it, i apologise for bein an arse

 

[abu97]

Heskey can't move like that in real life - he defo isn't agile

 

[orlandoSPUR]

respect dude, i was just yankin the yanks chain tbh, but i always respect a gentleman and u sir have it, i apologise for bein an arse

No worries fella

 

[X-Offender]

Alright, let's suppose the whole tackling thing needs practice. What about the stupid fouls? As faintly as you touch a player, the referee gives foul. It's a complete hypocrisy. The previous PES didn't have neither of these annoyances.

 

[abu97]

The previous ref was worse- whenever you stumble they never give fouls. They also miss two-footed tackles right in front of their eyes. Before they were to kind and now they are too strict

 

[g221911g]

Whilst I agree with you that markcross is a muppet, I have to disagree with everything else. I am perfectly capable at tackling/defending on this game and enjoy it. It's not broken or glitched, it just takes practice. The game has advanced, so you need to advance with it and not "play how you usually play". This won't work. If you do then you will concede 2-3+ goals per game like the OP. I don't concede that many per game. Yes I have conceded that many, but when I'm playing against stronger opponents and my tactics aren't working. I've kept a lot of clean sheets, and conceded the odd goal here and there.

As for the OP, don't just rely on training to learn how to defend. If there is one thing that this game did to me it was knock me down a couple of pegs in terms of difficulty. I'm used to playing on Top Player, but I was knocked down to regular until I got used to tackling and got better at it. Now I'm playing on Pro quite comfortably and will move up to Top Player, then Superstar (I hope).

Fair enough, but I do feel that the defending is completely random and scripted. For example, if a guy runs straight into me and I tackle him, no problems. If the same exact play happens and he's holding 'special controls', it's a foul regardless of what happens.

I actually give up less than 1 goal a game (.97) in all of my online matches, so I have figured it out more or less.

My problem is the inconsistency in tackling. A lot of times my guy will go in for a tackle because the opponent hit 'special controls'. I didn't do anything.

I also think that the defending is broken and I'll give an example: You can make a standing tackle holding L2 (special controls), R2 (sprint), X (tackle), [] (square; SLIDING TACKLE), OR NOTHING AT ALL!

Sometimes my guy will slide when i'm holding the tackle button. And sometimes he'll make a standing tackle when i'm trying to slide. That's not freedom, that's the opposite of it. There are just too many silly automatic animations that this forces on the user to allow game continuity.

I find it very difficult to see how anybody can't see this games defending is 60-75% automated.

I guess the best way to put it would be: 90% video, 10% game...

On a different note, LYC10: that was probably the best game i've had online yet. Well played (even though you were fortunate :crymore

 

[markcross]

Fair enough, but I do feel that the defending is completely random and scripted. For example, if a guy runs straight into me and I tackle him, no problems. If the same exact play happens and he's holding 'special controls', it's a foul regardless of what happens.

I actually give up less than 1 goal a game (.97) in all of my online matches, so I have figured it out more or less.

My problem is the inconsistency in tackling. A lot of times my guy will go in for a tackle because the opponent hit 'special controls'. I didn't do anything.

I also think that the defending is broken and I'll give an example: You can make a standing tackle holding L2 (special controls), R2 (sprint), X (tackle), [] (square; SLIDING TACKLE), OR NOTHING AT ALL!

Sometimes my guy will slide when i'm holding the tackle button. And sometimes he'll make a standing tackle when i'm trying to slide. That's not freedom, that's the opposite of it. There are just too many silly automatic animations that this forces on the user to allow game continuity.

I find it very difficult to see how anybody can't see this games defending is 60-75% automated.

I guess the best way to put it would be: 90% video, 10% game...

On a different note, LYC10: that was probably the best game i've had online yet. Well played (even though you were fortunate :crymore

i take it LYC10 owned u then hahaha so much for ur .97 goals conceded per game.... bullllshitttt

 

[g221911g]

i take it LYC10 owned u then hahaha so much for ur .97 goals conceded per game.... bullllshitttt

He owned me 1-0. Genius. Also my claim is easily checkable online. I bet i'm doing better than you fanboy.

Good on you though. Your lack of shame allows you to keep showing off your extreme stupidity. Your juvenile attempts continue getting destroyed at every turn, it's not even challenging.

At least for me, it's entertaining. Do us a favor and try to think of SOMETHING clever, anything other than your usual junior high school comedy and insults.

 

[markcross]

He owned me 1-0. Genius. Also my claim is easily checkable online. I bet i'm doing better than you fanboy.

Good on you though. Your lack of shame allows you to keep showing off your extreme stupidity. Your juvenile attempts continue getting destroyed at every turn, it's not even challenging.

At least for me, it's entertaining. Do us a favor and try to think of SOMETHING clever, anything other than your usual junior high school comedy and insults.

pfff..... typical yank lol