Tactics and formations
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it seems this year that the 4-4-1-1; 4-2-2-1-1 and 4-1-3-1-1 are the best formations.
i play with 1 DM(Enforcer) like gatusso or sissoko. he will cover open holes in your defence.
i switch between long balls and quick counter. still can't decide which is better for me because my results are not consistent.
good like guys
I use the classic pro evo 4-3-3, with a DM, 2 CMs, 2 WFs and 1 CF.
However on this PES the WFs seem to have a completely free role, whereas in previous versions they would stick to the wing a bit more and therefore be available to defend the wings if you selected them. In this version they seem to operate a bit more like SSs, roaming the front line when attacking and defending.
I am having on ongoing debate with myself as to whether to designate them as LM/RMs, as they seem much more adept at keeping the shape.
Interested to see so many people using variants of 4-4-2 in this version- I seem to really struggle defending if I dont have a very defensive DM sitting deep behind 2 CMs.
However on this PES the WFs seem to have a completely free role, whereas in previous versions they would stick to the wing a bit more and therefore be available to defend the wings if you selected them. In this version they seem to operate a bit more like SSs, roaming the front line when attacking and defending.
I am having on ongoing debate with myself as to whether to designate them as LM/RMs, as they seem much more adept at keeping the shape.
Interested to see so many people using variants of 4-4-2 in this version- I seem to really struggle defending if I dont have a very defensive DM sitting deep behind 2 CMs.
Okay thanks alot guys. So you actually are changing your formation/strategy depending on the opponent? So maybe you don't even play the same formation for 2 consecutive matches or?
I'm trying to play the same formation for as long as possible, since i think that will benefit my players teamwork. Maybe it doesn't matter, but thats my theory.
Currently i'm playing 4-4-2 two cmf. No amf/dmf. Also both strikers are called CF.
Like this:
--------------Berg---------
--------Roux----------------
-Delaney---Midtsjø--R.Elm---Lundberg--
--------------------------------------
-P.bengtsson--Zanka--A.Milosevic--Wass--
----------Hansen----------------
Both wingers and sidebacks are placed as far to side as possible.
I don't use any of the special tactics.
I got tired of losing, so took standard and made a tactic myself.
No counter, possession game, etc. ONLY when i'm behind i switch to All out attack in the dying minutes or if i'm 2-0 down at half time.
So i've noticed that if i set compactness to 20 and at the same time place the sidebacks as far to the side as possible, it works great. I intercept their through balls, and i don't get fooled by their crazy long passes from one side to the other. Defensive line is 18 - high, but it works great.
Pressure is 14, and most importantly position switch is 0 - this secures that there are some players available during counter attacks, so the lmf is on the left side, and not in the center of the field or something like that.
I'm trying to play the same formation for as long as possible, since i think that will benefit my players teamwork. Maybe it doesn't matter, but thats my theory.
Currently i'm playing 4-4-2 two cmf. No amf/dmf. Also both strikers are called CF.
Like this:
--------------Berg---------
--------Roux----------------
-Delaney---Midtsjø--R.Elm---Lundberg--
--------------------------------------
-P.bengtsson--Zanka--A.Milosevic--Wass--
----------Hansen----------------
Both wingers and sidebacks are placed as far to side as possible.
I don't use any of the special tactics.
I got tired of losing, so took standard and made a tactic myself.
No counter, possession game, etc. ONLY when i'm behind i switch to All out attack in the dying minutes or if i'm 2-0 down at half time.
So i've noticed that if i set compactness to 20 and at the same time place the sidebacks as far to the side as possible, it works great. I intercept their through balls, and i don't get fooled by their crazy long passes from one side to the other. Defensive line is 18 - high, but it works great.
Pressure is 14, and most importantly position switch is 0 - this secures that there are some players available during counter attacks, so the lmf is on the left side, and not in the center of the field or something like that.
Great tips! I'm also using my own tactics now, I borrowed some of your ideas and is working better for me now, I still want to try Defensive line High and see if that makes my defense better.
I did try 0 in position switch and I like it. Players are where I want them to be, I can't recall the names, but I also have my team attacking out wide completely. I have this guy from the Youth Team "Rebeiro" he is 199 cm or 6.5 ft and I use my RMF and LMF to rain him centers and goals just keep coming. The difference is my defense is really deep and is working for me, so as of now i'm leaving it like that.
Since I changed to my own strategy, in the last 8 games i won 3 and drew 5. (Much better than loosing 4 in a row!)
Some useful stuff there. Good to read other peoples tactics.
I'm using the basic default Counter Attack.
It gives me a few options to change it round without changing personnel. Can go heavily defensive, normal or heavily offensive.
It works fairly well can utilise the wings as my wingers both have plenty of pace or can play it though the middle and get some of those little one-twos going on the edge of the box.
I'm using the basic default Counter Attack.
It gives me a few options to change it round without changing personnel. Can go heavily defensive, normal or heavily offensive.
It works fairly well can utilise the wings as my wingers both have plenty of pace or can play it though the middle and get some of those little one-twos going on the edge of the box.
^ Quick counter?
Tried it last season when i faced the big teams in EL. Worked great and i even won the final 2-0 against Tottenham (Superstar) However i switched it now, which you can read about on the previous page. I also tried a midfield constellation like yours, but now i'm just using a two cmf's next to each other, how ever one of them is more offensive than the other, so it works fine.
What do you set position switch, compactness, defensive line, pressure etc?
- Regarding choice of captain: Do you choose the one with the highest teamwork, or how do you decide?
Tried it last season when i faced the big teams in EL. Worked great and i even won the final 2-0 against Tottenham (Superstar) However i switched it now, which you can read about on the previous page. I also tried a midfield constellation like yours, but now i'm just using a two cmf's next to each other, how ever one of them is more offensive than the other, so it works fine.
What do you set position switch, compactness, defensive line, pressure etc?
- Regarding choice of captain: Do you choose the one with the highest teamwork, or how do you decide?
My quick counter (still calling it counter attack) is the default one, I haven't changed anything, the reason I have used it is I find players off the ball while your in possession push forward more especially wingers, although I have read and it seems to be true, the stamina level goes down quicker especially wingers again as they are constantly making runs. Could do with a bit more of a look into this, to see if it's true.
Captain wise I have Shimizu as captain (91 Over All rating) most of the times. It slightly boosts his performance and he's my highest rated player by a fair way.
I'll be changing my tactics at the end of the season to have more control over them, but don't want to change too much at the moment as there are only a few games left and I'm pushing for Champions League football. It's a bit of a long shot as I'm 5 points away from Chelsea in 4th, but there is always a chance.
Oh 1 more thing I have changed my Level from Pro to superstar completely missing out Top Player, the game seems more realistic now. I felt I needed to change it after playing Liverpool at Anfield and they "Parked the Bus"
But I seem to be winning just as many.
With captaincy, I find the player that has the highest 'fortitude'(you can see this when you press square and see their stats like 'technique', 'speed', resistance' and 'fortitude'
If someone has a fortitude of a B, and the rest are C's, D's, I'd choose him.
If a lot of players have the highest fortitude, I select the player with the highest mentality as the meaning of mentality is 'how hard a player tries during a match regardless of stamina which only affects his peformances by a bit'
Therefore I'd give the captaicy to him. If I can't find anyone with the highest mentality, I search for teamwork then Form then offensive/defensive work rate.
As you can see, all the preferred stats for captaicy are all in the fortitude section
That seems reasonable regarding the wingers losing stamina when making many runs during a game. I've experienced it quite often. Good for you that you're on superstar now. I also find it the most realistic, apart from the insame number of free kicks the cpu score from!
Thanks for the help regarding choice of captain guys. Think i will let Rasmus Elm carry the armband from next season. I've been having the same captain for 4 seasons now, (the same as they use in real life) but his teamwork is only 68 even though he plays every match each season! Rasmus Elm's teamwork is even higher and he hasn't even played his 1st season yet, and he started with 17 in teamwork. I find this a bit strange..
I have been experimenting with 442 and it does seem far more effective than in previous PES versions. They midfield AI seems much better, and one midfielder will often hold back whilst the other attacks. However I still prefer the 451 or 433 with a proper holding midfielder, sat infront of the back 4. I just find that player absolutely crucial if you want to push players forward in the attack, particularly if you are playing a posession game.
Absolutely. Having that Rock in midfield who's soul purpose is to break up opposition attacks and protect the back 4, I find is needed if you play an attacking formation otherwise you will get murdered on the break.
Anchor Man or/and Enforcer cards are good for that type of player, although I haven't found a player who has both.
Naah, it's just to add some realism to the game. I wanted the same captain as FC Copenhagen in real life - however he's played almost every game for 4 seasons now and he's only 68 in teamwork being 24 years old!
Rasmus Elm hasn't even played his first season yet, and he's 70 in teamwork!!! My point being that the first player is increasing waay to slow and Elm waay to fast.