Thats it. I am canceling my pre-order

[Mc Görk]

I also would say that this isn`t necessary scripting. Also things like that happen in real life football. Maybe Boateng had a bad day or was exhausted, maybe you pressed the wrong button or to late. And most importened who said that the player will react immediately as soons as you press the button? That would mean that every player has the same reaction time, no matter what situation he finds himselfe in.

 

[LanceButters]

I also would say that this isn`t necessary scripting. Also things like that happen in real life football. Maybe Boateng had a bad day or was exhausted, maybe you pressed the wrong button or to late. And most importened who said that the player will react immediately as soons as you press the button? That would mean that every player has the same reaction time, no matter what situation he finds himselfe in.

In real life there isn't a 3rd party causing problems constantly, mistakes or whatever depends on both partys that play against each other.It should be the same way in pes, otherwise there is no point in practicing or having different tactics and do on.

 

[Mc Görk]

There is still no proof of that goal happening because the CPU simply said so, who said this goal wouldn`t have happend if you were allready behind?
And of course there is a 3rd party - the stats of the players and things like moral (maybe youre players said "Now we can lay back and relax!", ask Germany abou it when they played against Sweden) and fatigue. They are constantly having influence on the outcome of youre game and you are practicing to make the best out of it.

 

[shaun7]

There is still no proof of that goal happening because the CPU simply said so, who said this goal wouldn`t have happend if you were allready behind?
And of course there is a 3rd party - the stats of the players and things like moral (maybe youre players said "Now we can lay back and relax!", ask Germany abou it when they played against Sweden) and fatigue. They are constantly having influence on the outcome of youre game and you are practicing to make the best out of it.

There's actually alot of proof especially during replays.

In Fifa for example, there are multiple occasions where the ball changes trajectory to suit the CPU's needs (evident in the replay), Refs constantly favour the CPU, etc... For 2 players, skill is involved more, but I feel that your skill alone is not the deciding factor for football games.

I said it before however, scripting NEEDS to be there, because that's the way the AI works (a bunch of scripted event/ s based on certain attributes), but in Fifa and Pes it's way to evident and they do it to mask the incompetency of the AI playing against you.

Hard games do not mean scripted to unfairness. They mean good and competent AI to challenge the player.

 

[Andyhan498]

Stupid! I don't see any problem with PES! Because u stupid don't know how to play! The only pes's problem is team kits licensed

 

[Le Carcajou]

There's actually alot of proof especially during replays.

In Fifa for example, there are multiple occasions where the ball changes trajectory to suit the CPU's needs (evident in the replay), Refs constantly favour the CPU, etc... For 2 players, skill is involved more, but I feel that your skill alone is not the deciding factor for football games.

I said it before however, scripting NEEDS to be there, because that's the way the AI works (a bunch of scripted event/ s based on certain attributes), but in Fifa and Pes it's way to evident and they do it to mask the incompetency of the AI playing against you.

Hard games do not mean scripted to unfairness. They mean good and competent AI to challenge the player.

All those are not proofs. It depends on who is watching the replay.

I also think LUCK is a third partier in reality, also.

By the way, i find PES 2015 a very fair game in this aspect. It is not that impossible to win if you play properly as in reality too.

 

[shaun7]

All those are not proofs. It depends on who is watching the replay.

I also think LUCK is a third partier in reality, also.

By the way, i find PES 2015 a very fair game in this aspect. It is not that impossible to win if you play properly as in reality too.

How can you explain 50-50% encounters/battles/circumstances ALWAYS favoring then CPU team then? The replay makes it crystal clear. Ofcourse, you can never really have solid proof of AI cheating/ scripting, but when you play it, you'll notice it and when it's heavy, it breaks the enjoyment. At least for me. I have played a bit of pes 15 and I did notice scripting and cheating, but so far, it seemed bearable.

I agree about luck BTW, it seems like a third party member, but as I siad, when those 50-50 always end up in the CPU's favor it's not luck anymore. This also happens in 2 players too but not as bad as human vs cpu.

 

[ByebyePES14]

After the disaster that was PES 2014 I'm never every buying PES on release day again (never mind preorder).

 

[Le Carcajou]

How can you explain 50-50% encounters/battles/circumstances ALWAYS favoring then CPU team then? The replay makes it crystal clear. Ofcourse, you can never really have solid proof of AI cheating/ scripting, but when you play it, you'll notice it and when it's heavy, it breaks the enjoyment. At least for me. I have played a bit of pes 15 and I did notice scripting and cheating, but so far, it seemed bearable.

I agree about luck BTW, it seems like a third party member, but as I siad, when those 50-50 always end up in the CPU's favor it's not luck anymore. This also happens in 2 players too but not as bad as human vs cpu.

In a 50-50% encounters the one in possesion of the ball have more chances to win. If you have the possesion, by playing properly trying to keep the ball or attacking intelligently without loosing the ball and shooting between the posts more often than your rival (CPU or P2) you will notice the game gets easier for you. If you attack like a wacko and loose the ball with bad and risky passing 3 seconds after you got it, the CPU gets stronger and this "scripting" appears.

Try to keep the ball more time, playing with intelligence and without offensive anxiety and you'll notice this "scripting feel" reduces. Tactics and correct strategy also helps a lot, so you need to concentrate and give each match the importance it deserves. It also works against another player.