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The best defending techniques

ChelseaDave

Registered User
A good defensive formation i use is a 4-5-1.

-------------GK-----------
--LB-----CB----CB----RB--
---------DMF-------------
--LM-----------CM----RM--
--------OMF---------------
----------------CF---------

You get plenty of players behind the ball & when you go forward, you get plenty of the midfielders supporting the forward, so you dont get too isolated.

Only conceded 3 goals in my last 18 games on ML and scored 27 with this formation.
 

keegan57

Registered User
hey guys how do i just bring my midfielders and backline just all in the box without having to manually position them? when i play there always seems a gap between my midfielders and backline and all my player opponents do is short passes from midfield to their forwards and their forwards have to just beat my cb's...i just want to stuff the whole penalty box with defenders and play defense !! would putting my midfielders

on high defense mindedness do it? how bout my back 4? should i put them on high defense also?
 

young

Registered User
keegan57 said:
hey guys how do i just bring my midfielders and backline just all in the box without having to manually position them? when i play there always seems a gap between my midfielders and backline and all my player opponents do is short passes from midfield to their forwards and their forwards have to just beat my cb's...i just want to stuff the whole penalty box with defenders and play defense !! would putting my midfielders

on high defense mindedness do it? how bout my back 4? should i put them on high defense also?


hi there friend . i always use high defense for all the players in semi auto mode
and the side defenders give them an straight ahead attack arrow.
i think that the secret is to defend as much higher you can even in the half of the stadium so the opposite team makes a mistake.You can imagine i suppose whats next :D
 

keegan57

Registered User
ya i think your right YOUNG, i guess a lot of pressing at the midfield and my backline coming up is better than just sitting back and filling up the penalty area with my defenders...anybody else have ideas ?
 

defensivemidfielder

Registered User
I use the same 3-5-2 formation I have used since first playing ISS PE.
2 strikers, an OMF just under them in the middle, two wmfs, and two DMFs in front of my back line. In this formation, the DMFs are crucial; they must have many skills, and you should have depth on the roster at this position because these players are responsible for many tasks, and they get exhausted often.

Up front I have my two strikers, one of whom is purely to score (like an Mboma or Batistuta in ISS), the other should have high stamina and decent defensive skill (for a striker). I use the strikers to angle my opponent toward a wing, where I look for a potential trap with either the OMF closing in the middle, or the WMF pushing up, or both. The key is to slow the ball down, and set up a clean tackle from a good angle. I usually only place MFs with at least a 40+ defensive rating on my wings and at OMF. I prefer 48+. You may lose a little offense, but if you collect the right DMFs and SBs you can compensate. The OMF, while a great passer, must have high stamina. The key is to trap, tackle, and counter.

The DMFs are very important because should the attacker elude the initial traps (along the sideline, near the half-line), they have to have the speed to close down the angle on the potential cross or the agility to keep a good dribbler in front until the other midfielders recover and regroup. I also want them to be tall and solid in the air because sometimes an opponent will attempt to pass over the sideline traps. Should the opponent manage to get through down the wing I am looking to stop ball - in this situation I only slide tackle with a DMF if it is a sure bet. I use Ndo (Cameroon) in this spot, usually teamed with another aggressive DMF. Veira or Keane would work well too, but I like to build my teams from unsigned players. I want my DMFs to have good dribbling and attacking skills so should they pick up a loose ball, make an interception or clean tackle or win a ball in the air, they can initiate a quick counter attack through either the air or by carrying the ball.

My sidebacks are smaller and quicker, with limited attack skills, strong defense and average to above average dribbling and passing skills. They have to close down rapidly if the DMF is beat. Sometimes I use them to slide tackle if I have been beaten as a DMF and I call for help using the square button, but they have to take the correct angle on their own (CPU) since I am still closing from behind with a DMF. Offensively the SBs just need to be able to move the ball to a wing or DMF. I use players like Hedjuk (USA), Soto (Peru) and John Terry in this role. At CBT I like size, defensive ability and air power.

In sum, the primary objective is to be patient and hold angles, letting the attacker move himself into a difficult spot, either through inpatience, lack of skill, or me pushing him there. Then, spring the shutdown pressure to force a bad pass or overzealous dribble attempt, dispossess and counter. Or, if I have a lead, patiently move the ball until I find a gap. This strategy really frustrates impatient, run-and-gun opponents. All you really want to do is make them uncomfortable and stop their rhythm. Make it ugly. Keep the man in front, and use the X button to break their possession. Also, if a 50/50 ball is loose, and you have a safe angle, slide to it and push it to a teamate. Be patient, and, if no counter attack is available, go backwards and switch the ball.
 

dorval

Registered User
lololo nicely done defensivemidfielder....but if your opponent plays in a flat 4-4-2 with all the defenders on high defense...the smf's with low defense with attacking runs...2 defensive midfielders on high defense without attacking runs and then 2 strikers one who has high defense and no attacking runs and the other the exact opposite you won't stand a chance....i mean it would be a very difficult match...ehhehe i love tactics and strategy
 

keegan57

Registered User
defensivemidfielder , or anybody out there....

do u have any suggestions for a 4-4-2? i use holland so i like that formation. do u ever use cover marking instead of zone marking or man marking, and if you do why? do u use high mindedness on your defenders or midfielders and if u do can u explain why?

how bout your defense system ? Defense line? normal? sweeper? and ofcourse explain why u choose these tactics so i can understand better.

last but not least how bout your team strategy
BACK LINE ?
ZONE PRESS?
OFFSIDE TRAP?
COUNTER ATTACK?

i would just like to understand these strategies and tactics much better.
 

tomo1811

Registered User
i used brazils system t'other, 4 at the back 2 defensive mids 2 wide players and 2 strikers. this allow me wing back to get forward creating at times a 6 man attack but when defending have 6 at the back brilliant!! i recomend u use it
 

keegan57

Registered User
guys i need help on defending headers. i can score goals but defeding headers are a nightmare. at times i just see my defenders watching the ball

when my opponent crosses it. there will be like 3 strikers in the penalty area to my 5 or 6 defenders and 3 of them will just watch. what im trying to get at

is that i would like for 2 defenders to try to head the ball out when it is crossed instead of my CB's trying to head it out everytime. is there a way

that you guys do to make this happen? summarize this up...just want all my
defenders to get involved when the cross is being crossed and not just lookin

i started a thread of headers but i should of just put in here. sorry...

at my defender vs. his striker ....manually controlling and going to the box i do that but on wide screen and if the cross is coming from top screen i cant see the box and who to mark so thats why i want my teammates to

go for every cross when being crossed. it hurts when i have 5 defenders back there and he only has 2 or 3 strikers and him winning the headers.
 

jowie53

Registered User
Hey everyone. I've read this entire thread and have tried many of the suggestions that people have written as to the best way to defend but I'm still having massive problems.

I predominantly play PE against my brother in the Memorial Match option where the match results can be recorded. My record currently sits at 23W 6D 37L. He won the first 7 games before I won one, lol. We had been playing before we started using this option and I would think that the ledger for those games would have been pretty even, most games being decided by one goal and very tight games.

Anyways in recent times, my bro has been smashing me by 5 or 6 goals every game, I've tried 4-4-2 with a DMF, 2 WMF and an AMF, 3-5-2 with 2DMF, 2WMF and an AMF, 4-3-3 with a DMF and 2 WMF, 5-3-2 with 2DMF and an AMF (effectively 7 defenders in this one). And I use the auto-sort option which seems to put the best players in for particular positions in the right spot for whichever team I'm playing with. Sometimes I'll win but it'll be by one goal with a score like 5-4 or 6-5. The little bastard also has a knack of equalising when I'm one goal up from 88 minutes onwards. Then it will go to extra time and he wins.

What I try to do is stand off the player with the ball and try and predict where he gonna pass it and use [] to call in a second defender to harass the player with the ball. I think this is probably the best way to defend but it seems to put my formation out of whack and opens up massive holes. When I predict correctly where the pass is going to go and slide tackle to intercept, it looks like the ball goes straight through my players body and goes straight to my brother's player.

He basically has his finger on R1 the whole game so when I have the ball I have little time to decide what to do. I try and slow the game down to prevent him using it when I'm attacking but he'll still steal the ball in his half, do one through ball, and most of the time, I'm left with like 2 defenders at the back and he just sprints around them and scores. If my defence is relatively set, he either goes down the middle and my defence just spreads apart and he slots goals in from 25, or he runs around the back of my defence and passes to the striker standing 5 yards out even with like 7 defenders (5 and 2DMF) standing in the box.

Every slide tackle he does he either takes the ball, or clips my heels so I stumble, then he stands up and takes the ball no call nearly 9 times out of 10. When I slide tackle, I either miss completely or foul and get a yellow or red card.

When I use /\ for one-on-ones too, 2 out of 10 times probably the keeper fouls the striker and gets a red card. Then when he keeper charges it never happens to him.

I'm am nearly fed up with this game. I can't work it out at all. And I know most people will say you've gotta practice but I have been and I think I'm actually getting worse because my bro never used to beat me by 5 goals every game. Used to be 2 goals at the most.

I need help!!! Would greatly appreciate any suggestions.
 

coullj

Registered User
Well the reason that your defence gets all "out of whack when u press [] is because your dragging another player out of position! dont do it!! just use X. I personally play with my finger on R1 all of the game to and it seems like im as lucky as him when it comes to tackling!

but if you play how you would in real life it wud probably help you! dont back off 2much because u need apply pressure to the player, so maybe when hes running full pelt back off, but when hes slowly dribbling, go towards him with X or even O, right for the middle of the player so u take him and the ball! but i wouldnt recommed diving in with O unless your 90% sure your gonna get the ball otherwise that defender is out the game! hope that kinda helps oh and show the player onto his weaker foot and preferably away from goal! and then stop the cross!! its just basic defending really
 

jowie53

Registered User
Thanks coullj, but I think I'm just gonna give up. I just made my bro play with CS Sedan and me Man U and he beat me 4-3. Every time he scored by running around the back of my defence and just passed to a striker waiting in front of goal and tapped it in. I threw the control across the room kicked the play station and told him to shove pro evo up his ***. I hate this game. I can't work it out at all and I consider myself a pretty darn good all round gamer. My bro can't beat me at any game but this one and NBA live, but I've never really play NBA live and he used to play it at least 4 - 5 hours a day.
 

Brunster

Registered User
jowie mate I am having the same problems as you are. Just remember that using R1 makes the players lighter and when u are dribbling let go of R1 and use L1 or just the Dpad and if he comes at you at pace just turn to face the other direction. It helps to play with a team that has a great passing game, I suggest you try France. France also plays with 2 DMFs so that helps too. Play a fast passing game and become a good finisher (easy with Henry). You will beat him.
 

The Commish

Registered User
What will help with defending is, if you have attacking full backs, forexample Ramos of Real Madrid, make sure you turn his attacking card off, which will stop him venturing forward thus resulting in you being one defender short should you get counter attacked quickly. Trust me it works!
 

wayne1269

Registered User
i always try 2 push the cpu out the wings as my ML team has to huge centrebacks n i just nod it out
defensive mids work well too i always play 2 with 1 attacking mid n 2 quick forwards and i never let my
left and right backs go up the wing either as it leaves u to vulnerable at the back
 
I noticed when you're chasing an attacker along the outside of the box, if you are within arms reach of him, the AI will always do a dragback then cross it in. If you watch the player closely you will see a slight hiccup in his animations. This is him switching off sprint. At that time you anticipate his cutback and easily snatch the ball as he turns around.

I noticed that too
 
What will help with defending is, if you have attacking full backs, forexample Ramos of Real Madrid, make sure you turn his attacking card off, which will stop him venturing forward thus resulting in you being one defender short should you get counter attacked quickly. Trust me it works!

Destroys the point of ramos getting forward though
 
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