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Trickster Card is "not very good"!

Jeronimoe

Registered User
As stated above....It has no visible effect on the game and makes no sense!
Probably the less I say more responses I will get!
 

LOL-ness

Registered User
I think that card has something to do with how hard it is to dispossess your player when he's doing a trick/feint. Have you tried that?
 

nikeaddict

Registered User
Could it affect the AI playing that certain player who has trickster? I have ever seen AI doing tricks with players.
 

LOL-ness

Registered User
Could it affect the AI playing that certain player who has trickster? I have ever seen AI doing tricks with players.

Well, you usually do tricks on the ball, so this card should be a passive skill that activates whenever you execute a feint. AI shouldn't normally do it unless it's BAL mode.
 

nikeaddict

Registered User
http://pes.neoseeker.com/wiki/Playstyle_Cards_in_PES_2011
This seems to explain that all the "P" cards affect AI only. I guess its really true. Darting Player isn't activated when we are controlling the players. I don't do turns to get in front, I simply pass. So, Mazing Run is also useless for human players (for me at least). Long Ranger too, the player with Long Ranger can't possibly auto-shoot from Long Range. Long Ranger affects the long shooting? I don't think so, it clearly states that "A player who needs no invitation to shoot and will always try to create space for a shot." Hmmm.
 

LOL-ness

Registered User
http://pes.neoseeker.com/wiki/Playstyle_Cards_in_PES_2011
This seems to explain that all the "P" cards affect AI only. I guess its really true. Darting Player isn't activated when we are controlling the players. I don't do turns to get in front, I simply pass. So, Mazing Run is also useless for human players (for me at least). Long Ranger too, the player with Long Ranger can't possibly auto-shoot from Long Range. Long Ranger affects the long shooting? I don't think so, it clearly states that "A player who needs no invitation to shoot and will always try to create space for a shot." Hmmm.

I think Long Ranger is just like the other positioning-based play style cards. What Long Ranger meant (and what Konami's description confused us all), is that the player with Long Ranger will strive to stay in a position where he is able to take a long range shot, so when you finally pass the ball to him, you can immediately command him to take a shot. I don't think it means the AI will shoot automatically; just that you can take the shot immediately because the AI positioned himself in an advantageous position. So in a way, it is a play style card.
 

Ali

It is happening again
Does it not just make it easier for players to do all the special Ronaldo esq skills? Some of the cards do seem useless, but others work well. Such as deep cover (defensive midfielder drops) and marauding (midfielder who makes constant runs into the box, a la Tim Cahill).
 

nikeaddict

Registered User
I think Long Ranger is just like the other positioning-based play style cards. What Long Ranger meant (and what Konami's description confused us all), is that the player with Long Ranger will strive to stay in a position where he is able to take a long range shot, so when you finally pass the ball to him, you can immediately command him to take a shot. I don't think it means the AI will shoot automatically; just that you can take the shot immediately because the AI positioned himself in an advantageous position. So in a way, it is a play style card.

That might probably be what it does. :rolleyes:
 
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