SteEagles27
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i can confirm the ps3 demo is only 5 min matches aswell.
just been playing it
just been playing it
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Yah at times i think that we are expecting too much. But are we really? considering that this is 2012...........there is no evidence suggesting that these game developers are doing their best they could (Fifa and Pes).
For example most Pes fans have been asking for the ability to change clubs as a manager for so many years, i dont think this should be a daunting task for Seabass and company............just my thoughts
I haven't been bothered to play football games for a while and this demo 2 of PES 2013 reminds me exactly why. Flawed to the core. It's so fucking simple and I cannot believe that in 2012 in this era of technological advancement, Konami cannot achieve one simple thing......
Develop an A.I system in which teams are capable of playing in multiple different ways and challenging the user.
I download this demo and I'm quite looking forward to it, until it takes me about 5 mins to realise that AI teams play exactly the same whether its superstar or professional level.....the result........Big sigh, press start, return to menu, exit demo and probably delete and let me tell you, thank fuck my xbox doesnt have a recycle bin so I can think about resurrecting this shite.
Please someone tell me i'm missing out on some special menu option that makes teams play differently, because otherwise the game is pointless.
PES 2013 CPU AI in a nutshell : pass ball to AMF or CMF
Run Run Run Run Run Run, through ball to striker
Run Run Run Run Run cut back /cross
End game.
Also, the morons at Konami have yet again made an A.I where it completes about 90% of passes every game, put the game on a high level, the CPU barely misplaces one pass for fuck sakes.......this is basic football fundamentals here, they have done well to create system which means I misplace passes......that's what i've been asking for, for about 5 years, but the CPU AI still does near perfect through balls and passes every fucking time, not every team can play this way......alot of the time Konami, games are bitty and scrappy with teams struggling to string together world class triangles, let alone every team in the game being able to do it.
It's only a game! Get over yourselves!
If you play the game just for the sake of scoring in every attack if possible, you destroy the game for yourself because the AI seems to be affected by how you play. If you play "hawaii football" the AI tries to emulate you. If you want a game that is truly challenging and realistic at the same time, you will have to wait forever. However if you sit your ass in the couch and play the game with the aim of playing great football, keeping a sensible balance between possession and attacking/counters and scoring fine goals, you can have much enjoyment of this game.
Why not realistic and challenging you say?
Because the AI will never be smart enough to be challenging without massive "cheating" which creates a lot of annoyances and makes the game inherently unrealistic. And I'm talking about sensibly recreated "realism" here, or "as little arcade as possible" if you like.
real analog control still is so far away, and it is almost 2013!! I mean, nobody would have thought this would be the state of PES, had you asked them back in 2006.
I haven't been bothered to play football games for a while and this demo 2 of PES 2013 reminds me exactly why. Flawed to the core. It's so fucking simple and I cannot believe that in 2012 in this era of technological advancement, Konami cannot achieve one simple thing......
Develop an A.I system in which teams are capable of playing in multiple different ways and challenging the user.
I download this demo and I'm quite looking forward to it, until it takes me about 5 mins to realise that AI teams play exactly the same whether its superstar or professional level.....the result........Big sigh, press start, return to menu, exit demo and probably delete and let me tell you, thank fuck my xbox doesnt have a recycle bin so I can think about resurrecting this shite.
Please someone tell me i'm missing out on some special menu option that makes teams play differently, because otherwise the game is pointless.
PES 2013 CPU AI in a nutshell : pass ball to AMF or CMF
Run Run Run Run Run Run, through ball to striker
Run Run Run Run Run cut back /cross
End game.
Also, the morons at Konami have yet again made an A.I where it completes about 90% of passes every game, put the game on a high level, the CPU barely misplaces one pass for fuck sakes.......this is basic football fundamentals here, they have done well to create system which means I misplace passes......that's what i've been asking for, for about 5 years, but the CPU AI still does near perfect through balls and passes every fucking time, not every team can play this way......alot of the time Konami, games are bitty and scrappy with teams struggling to string together world class triangles, let alone every team in the game being able to do it.
Yes, removing the sprint button and using the stick as a direction and speed throttle would make sense, but it would also be quite hard to move around at a desired pace in the heat of battle with a "real" analog movement control.
Personally, I'm positive about the demo. I've lowered my expectations considerably last few releases though, but it's nice to be positively surprised every now and then for a change. Either way, I expect some real bitchy annoyances to surface once the full game release... at least that would be perfectly common practice by Konami.