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underrated players in pes3 (mellberg)

phz114n

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ok, I'm swedish, but I seriously find Olof Mellberg from aston villa very underrated in pes3. I mean, he played for racing santander in la liga for a couple of years and was the number one defender, then he went to aston villa and is in my opinion clearly the best defender there, he has been voted villa's best player two years in a row by the club itself and isn't he the captain of the team too (..?), a team that has a possible chance of reaching champions league (ok, it's a long long shot, but they could...)? he is great in the swedish national team, stopped crespo, batistuta, lopez and whatever the argentinians put in front of him during the 2002 world cup, and is definitely the number one defender in sweden now when patrik andersson (bayern münchen, barcelona) is winding down. he is just a rock solid defender.

I don't have his stats right now, but I remember he for example got a lousy, or at least average speed rating, and he is really one of the fastest defenders I know. maybe he hasn't shown it very much in villa, but that man can run. he has a powerful header too, has scored a few in the national team at least on corners and such, and he beat up fredrik ljungberg on a national team training a few days before world cup 2002 :-D (did anyone see the footage of that? mellberg gives ljungberg a mean sliding tackle, ljungberg gets up and pushes mellberg, he grabs ljungbergs shirt and lifts him in the air and throws him to the ground, but then a lot of other players leap in to stop the fight... freddie needed to be brought down from his high horses...).

just look at the last game villa played, mellberg scored the gamewinner (yes I know vassell got the goal, but I don't think it hit him, it's extremely hard too see on the images I've seen at least. mellberg's shot anyways) and ruled the defense pretty well. he is great defender.

and the appearance of him isn't very similar to what he really looks, in the game he doesn't really look like a vicious viking with mean beard and stuff.


I notice because I've followed him for a long time, first in the swedish league, then in spain and england and in the national team and he is one of my favourite players overall. I'm a bit partial maybe, but I still think he is rated too low.


and speaking of swedish players, I think magnus hedman (celtic) is a bit overrated in pes3. he has a pretty mean rating I believe, don't remember it but keeper skills over 90 I think. it's pretty strange in the swedish national team in the game because young goalie andreas isaksson, formerly juventus (at 17 years of age!), now djurgården (swedish league champions, barely lost against partisan belgrad in the champions league qualifier), has a pretty crappy rating compared to hedman, but irl he is considered to be the number one keeper in sweden. lower hedman and raise isaksson, I say. but I guess I am the only one who really cares :)
 

spikeymaracca

The Spikiest maracca
youll find that if you wright less more people will talk to you.

1.patrick andersson is still better than mellberg.

2.mellberg is the best defender at aston villa but that dont mean much

3.u love mellberg to much.

Let me guess you think all the good players are over rated and that swedens team are the best
 

phz114n

Registered User
CtrlAltDel said:
games dont rate potential
yeah, but since the ones who rate the players for the game clearly hasn't seen it, had he showed it in villa he probably would have had a higher rating. but you can't expect them to have 100% insight on every players abilities, that's just impossible. but I think they've missed this on mellberg


I do not think patrik andersson is still better than mellberg, patrik hasn't played much the last season two seasons and he's getting on the older side. he has routine, but he isn't exactly the swiftest player on the field. this season he's going to play in the swedish league for Malmö FF, for christs sake :)

I believe it does mean something that mellberg was voted villa's best player two years in a row with players like vassell and dublin (both have played for the english national team) on the team.

I didn't even imply that I think swedens team is the best, I just said that mellberg+isaksson -> underrated, hedman -> overrated.

I wrote a lot to back up my claims a bit. if I just had wrote "yeah, mellberg is underrated" I don't see why I even should've bothered to post. if people are so busy that they don't have time to read through 25 lines of text, I'm not forcing them :)
 

drunkensailor

Registered User
and let me guess, u don't think larsson is overrated in this game


u know what players are underrated in pes3??

van der vaart
robben
van persie
sneijder
van der meyde
van nistelrooy
makaay
cocu
stam

and they overrated

frank de boer
seedorf
kluivert
 

Nifty1Pound50

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spikeymaracca said:
youll find that if you wright less more people will talk to you.

You'll find that if you spend less time criticising, and more time revising for spelling tests, you'll be a more rounded person.

What a load of rubbish.

1.patrick andersson is still better than mellberg.

It's a matter of opinion. Personally, I've always admired Mellberg's footballing ability. I think he's one of the most consistent unsung heroes of the Premiership.

He's always played well at Villa, he's been solid, and extremely good in the air, and a solid man-marker.

In my opinion, Larsson's about right in the game, if anything, he's underrated. And before you call me a Swede, no, and I'm not a Celtic fan either. For me, Larsson's one of the best strikers in the world. He's as good a finisher as there is, he's superb in the air (better than van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo and Henry as a target man), he's pretty quick, good with the ball at his feet, and has consistently hit plenty of goals per season.

It's funny how everyone remembers van Nistelrooy scoring 50 goals for the PSV reserves one season, while Larsson hit 50 for Celtic's first team in a season but was forgotten for the feat. Surely you're not all telling me that the Scottish Premier League is weaker than the Dutch Reserve league?
 

Zygalski

Administrator
Some players are under-rated and some are over-rated.
What do people think about the CM4 stats for players? Are they accurate enough?
 

spikeymaracca

The Spikiest maracca
drunkensailor said:
and let me guess, u don't think larsson is overrated in this game


u know what players are underrated in pes3??

van der vaart
robben
van persie
sneijder
van der meyde
van nistelrooy
makaay
cocu
stam

and they overrated

frank de boer
seedorf
kluivert

i agree with all those apart from jaap stam.Van der Vaart is very underated in my opinion. Another p[layer who is underated in the game is john Terry.and another is carlo cudicini.im sorry but how the hell is someone like brad friedel better thamn carlo....or an even better example fabian barthez!

i think konami need to take a page out of CM's books ;)
 

Zoidberg

Registered User
spikeymaracca said:
im sorry but how the hell is someone like brad friedel better thamn carlo
Oh dear! How do you figure that one out? I'm guessing it's because Brad doesn't play for a London club or Man Utd?

This is a goalkeeper who was regarded by all those in the game as THE best keeper in the Premiership last year. Try taking your big-team-blinker-glasses off and actually watch football, you might learn something and appreciate good players a bit more.
 

Nifty1Pound50

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The CM4 stats on the whole are accurate, though there will always be disagreement about quality.

As for Adriano, he's possibly one of the best strikers on the game, and he's far from under-rated. 84 Shot Accuracy with 90 for Shot Power and Technique, combined with 90-odd for Attack, a good jump and header.

Give me a break.
 

GFK

Registered User
I think the CM4 arent so good. For example D'Allesandro with the CM4 stats, he is better as Zidane!! And so on Demichelis from bayern Munchen is with the CM4 stats a class defender just as good as Ayala, but what has he shown so far?

Do you know who are underated, the whole Ajax squad. I mean come on they were in the quarterfinal! Give me a break
But the biggest mistake is, and everyone will agree, The mighty mighty AZ Alkmaar isnt in the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean thats.........its...........so hard........they have no idea what they are doing to me.............:(
 

chicagokid

Registered User
I agree with the guy who started this thread, Mellberg is way underated. He is one of the greatest defenders in the world along with players like Maldini and Nesta. Isaksson's stats should be boosted a little too, and Hedman's should be decreased because he sucks!
A few other players who should have lowered stats are:

Davids
Rivaldo
Barthez
The entire Liverpool team
 

drunkensailor

Registered User
chicagokid said:
I agree with the guy who started this thread, Mellberg is way underated. He is one of the greatest defenders in the world along with players like Maldini and Nesta. Isaksson's stats should be boosted a little too, and Hedman's should be decreased because he sucks!
A few other players who should have lowered stats are:

Davids
Rivaldo
Barthez
The entire Liverpool team

how about ljungberg and larson then?? they are overrated the most
 

dorval

Registered User
rooney is underrated on pes3 but he is the best player in the world on CM4...i think he is overrated on CM4...deco(porto), tiago(Benfica)----after all he was wanted but most european clubs on the last summer..., ibrahimovic, pienaar, der meyde, der vaart, c.ronaldo , quaresma and others are underrated on pes3...i mean Ajax played very well on the last year champions league....cristiano ronaldo and quaresma are two of the most promising wingers in europe...konami must be f*ck*ng blind!!
 

dorval

Registered User
Posted by dorval - Today at 05:38
rooney is underrated on pes3 but he is the best player in the world on CM4...i think he is overrated on CM4...deco(porto), tiago(Benfica)----after all he was wanted but most european clubs on the last summer..., ibrahimovic, pienaar, der meyde, der vaart, c.ronaldo , quaresma and others are underrated on pes3...i mean Ajax played very well on the last year champions league....cristiano ronaldo and quaresma are two of the most promising wingers in europe...konami must be f*ck*ng blind!!

ups.... i most be sleeping...."wanted by" not "wanted but" and i think there's no need for "the" before "last summer" but i'm not sure...as well as "on the last year champions league"....i think it's better "on last years' champions league..." for gods' sake my writing looks awful...
 

Nifty1Pound50

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Larsson isn't underrated at all. He's probably one of the most gifted footballers on the world stage, people just don't rate him 'cos he's playing in Scotland.

When he goes to Spain next summer and scores 20-25 goals, we'll see.
 
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