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Geordie01

Registered User
hi guys. im writing this thread in the hope that there are similar players/people to me out there playing pro evo online.

i play only MLO, and from the beginning that i started i decided not to buy any big super named players, and stick to a 5 million budget when purchasing players, i feel this would give me an opportunity to build an original team, but by playing with un-super players, build my skills by getting to know my players, and building orginal build up play and trying to be deadly on the counter attack.

the team that i am currently using, which i am in division 3 with, roughly with 480 points come promotion/relegation day.

goal keepers.

akinfeev
curci

defenders.

samba
lombaerts
mokoena
mbengue
ansaldi

midfielders.

tiote (c)
cabaye
jonas gutierrez
nzogbia
ireland
ben arfa

forwards.

issiar dia
dzsudzsak
gervinho
ternalboa
c.cole
gamerio
odemwingie

with this team ive played roughly 560 games, won 270 and drew and lost the rest.

since joining division 3, it seems every team/player i play has the exact identical team layout and players. not just any players but the super human players that always have the edge on their less skill ful counter parts.

these players include, kaka, arshavin, ronaldo, messi, benzema, puyol, xabi, robben, totti, david villa, gerrard,lampard etc etc

the player controlling these players always seem to possess the exact opposite skill to their chosen players in their teams, they play lazy with three up front just pelting their passes from wing to wing using their over strong and over quick players to get a shot on goal, and some how score the tap in from a superstar player following up.

when i loose a game its very rarely from a well worked goal, or a bit of individual brilliance from the player or their players. every goal i concede seems to be a very fluky tap, or the computer system giving up on my players and letting the super power player barge through and scoring a wonder goal, when ive spent the game pressing and have chance after chance only to see my 72 rated gamerio shoot just wide from a well worked 1-2 or a well worked triangle creating the chance. then to see a over 90 rated player from the above mentioned list smash one in from 30 yards to nick the win, with the player im playing putting on preset messages, "impressive" "well worked" ha, it makes me laugh, its not just one match im moaning about here, its every game.

when i concede i always say nice shot out of respect, and when i score, unless its a wonder goal, or a really well worked goal will i watch the replay, thats what i believe half time/ full time is for, not to rub your opposte numbers nose in it.

these players also do the very easy to defend, but embarassing tactic which really highlights there lack of skill, and lack of ability to play football how it should be, these tactic is the lobbed ball from kick off. this makes me laugh because i have never seen it in real football but most players, especially in division 3 and above try this tactic.

I try to be orignial in the purchases i make, and how i play the game, surely there is more people out there???? if so i play on xbox, please put your gamertag as a reply, because i would love a game with a honest player who doesnt try to screw the other one over.

thankyou for reading.
 

foss

Registered User
I'm in Division 3 and my team is: Cudicini, Bassong, Jagielka, Dawson, Onuhoa, A. Svensson, Parker, Smirchuk, G. Dos Santos, Belaise and Gameiro.

I notice a LOT of teams with the big names, but what do you expect? Of course people are going to choose the best players if they have the money.

It can seem like people are being cheap, and a lot of them are, but you can counter most cheap tactics (running to the byline and cutting back a pinpoint pass to someone in the box, which is really easy, or passing back to the DMF at kickoff and then long passing it over the top to the CF, etc). You can counter this if you know someone does this over and over. Make sure to not press up on the kick off and make sure to press SQUARE and pull a defender on anyone running to the byline and make sure the player you control covers anyone in the box.

You can't force anyone to play a certain way. It would suck if there was some outright way to cheat and score but there really isn't. Any cheap tactic you describe can be countered. Each team will be optimally set up depending on the players and the way you play.

So if you're getting crushed and feel cheated, adjust your tactics and play style.

BTW, Gameiro is one of the best strikers. I could have replaced him with someone more expensive but he is my main striker and I've had him for months. His finishing is absolutely clinical. How are you using him? I play him as the central striker with two fast wingers on each side. He is great at running on to balls as well as picking off any fast, low crosses into the box.

So basically don't look at it as the game or someone is cheating you. You need to adjust to how your opponent plays and play to his weaknesses. If you go up against a team with all 90+ rated players, the game will consider that in how much money you earn and how many points you win/lose. It's weighted. If someone has a team with Messi, Ronaldo, Pique, Vidic etc, of course they're going to beat your team which is much lower, but not definitely!

I've beaten some teams a lot stronger than myself and you win a TON of cash and get a big point increase. It's quite satisfying actually and I always prefer playing a better team to a weaker one.
 

Geordie01

Registered User
I've won alot online, so I'm just highlighting the fact how dull and unoriginal most people in this world are, and you've missed my point yes gamerio is lethal, he's played 256 and scored 167 for me so I know how good he is, I'm saying how people who MUST buy the super players, get a ridiculous advantage by just pressing shoot and it just flies in when I'm working my ass off creating openings.
 

Bombaman

Registered User
yes, i hate it when i see the all star line-up. I hope they can make players develop in pes2012. So not anyone in the top divisions are using the same lineup. Also i saw some people go 130+ games without a loss or a draw. Is that possible?
 

ratfunkel83

New Member
I like your team geordie, shame your on xbox cos I like playing people who play the game 'properly' without the need for messi, ronaldo, arshavin etc. it can get repetetive. I have given myself a £4.5mil max for all signings, got to the D3 cup final last night and lost a tight game 4-2 in extra time, gutted, his gk performed miracles. however got a cool million for my efforts.

team is howard, o'shea, j samuel, lescott, samba, huddlestone, ekdal, kranjcar, mutu, kanoute, chamakh. plus 8 decent subs & niclas bendtner :)
 

Geordie01

Registered User
Ratfunkle love your team, no massive stars but a team where you can see you have key players who win you and save you matches. Who's your top scorer? Love the million payment! I got that for one match once, just unreal! Wish there were more of us out there, I applaud your originality in team selection and giving yourself a wage bracket, think that's so cool dude and realistic. Which division do you find the better players I find 4, more original build up play etc etc.
 

paddy

Registered User
Im on pc in div 5 now after getting rel , div4 was very good for a decent game of footy some decent players ,however on quick matches i find dv3 dv2 dv1 players some of the worse players out there for unsporting play dc, trying cutback all game etc , very rarely do you get a decent player who wants to play football. ill post my team when i get to my other pc but i dont have any superstars , there all ranked 70-75 ish apart from my keeper who is a 82(yohan pele, who ive had between the sticks in every pes since pes 2008), i have 17mill in the bank but refuse to buy anyone over 4m , i play 4-2-2-2 formation, i have 6 or 7 decent subs all with ratings from 70 to 75 , ill post a pic of my team and formation 2moz , with a little write up on there strenghs and weaknesses of each player , and there price.. anyone want to add me on pc my username is mack2kill :) win or lose i play fair:)
 

paddy

Registered User
Right here is my team :) i only play on pc now not xbox..



My team is done , im more than happy with it, ill post my thoughts on the players i have .

gk. y.pele . he's a 82 rated keeper who ive had in every pes since 2008 , he's pulled off so many world class saves for me , he has everything ,tall ,agile, great in the air , very fast reflexes etc , he cost 3.5m ish, legend..

rb. nocerino . he's a 69 rated dude at rb who can play cm ,dm,smf,rb,lb, hes a 68 rated cm but i shifted him to rb as he has the man marking card and defence of 75, hes just a solid player not much gets past him, a decent utility player , he cost 1.2m ish ..

cb. henrique . he's a 71 rated cb , tall , strong , quite quick , great at one on ones , a good solid player , he cost 1.5m ...

cb. orban . he's a 71 rated player again but this guy is imense for me , strong ,quick , great in the air , good ball control , excellent from corners , hes scored 15 goals in 350 games for me , legend ,he cost 1.3m and worth every penny. a great left footed cb ,well worth buying .

lb. rakytskyi . he's a 69 rated cb who jumps to 74 as lb , but he can also play cm, dm , smf, as well as cb , lb , hes quite quick , has a defence of 75 attack of 73 , a good solid player , he cost 1.6m ish..

dm. josue . he's a 72 rated dm but can also play cm , he has the enforcer card and covering card , he may be small but this little guy is a beast , he never gives up , he cost 1.7m ish..

cm. gago . he's a 76 rated dm/cm , great passer of the ball ,got a good shot on him , a real box to box guy although he dont have the card , my only concern is that hes quite slow although his stats suggest otherwise , but hes always there when defending or attacking , he cost 2.5m ish .. deffo worth buying ..

am. ben saada . he's a 71 rated fella , good dribbler , quick across the pitch , gets back to defend , good passer , a good player, he has the passer card , marauding card , flicking skills card , and super sub card , he can play left or right side of the pitch as am , ss , wf , a solid player , he cost 1.7m ish ..

rmf. giaccherini . he's a 71 rated ss but i play him rm , hes a little fella who is a great fast dribbler who has great technique , he tracks back well too , he can play both sides as am , ss, or wf , he has the marauding card , a great little player , he cost 1.6m ish..

ss. smolarek , my captain , he's a 72 rated player , everything i do go's through this fella , he is a wonderful player with great passing , amazing technique , a good shot , hes my main man , i would recommend him to anyone who play's mlo , he has the marauding card and outside curve card, he can play both sides of the pitch as sm,ss,cf,or wf , he cost 1.5m ish ...

cf. pogrebnyak . he's a 76 rated player , ive had this guy on pes in the past so thought id try him again , boy does this guy know where the net is , one chance is all he needs , hes quite slow but is always there to stick the ball in the net , good shot , great in the air everything you need in a cheap cf, he cost 2m ish...

onto the subs

cb. forlin . a 71 rated cb who is a solid sub if one of my cb is dead, he can play dm too , he cost 1.5m ish..

dm. ghioane . a 71 rated player who can play in many places on the pitch , he can play both sides as sb,dm ,cm ,am sm, a great utility player , he has the covering card , he cost 1.5m ish...

cm. morrone . he's rated 71 , he can play dm/cm , hes a real fighter , never gives up , and has popped up with a few goals which is nice, he has the man marking and covering cards , a excellent sub for weary legs late on in a game , he cost 1.4m ish...

am. buonanotte . he's a 67 rated player who just loves to take people on and run with the ball , great little dribbler , not so good passer , has a half decent shot on him , he can play both sides of the pitch as am,sm,ss , and has the mazing run , roulette skills and scissors skills card's , id recommend this guy to all you guy/girls , he cost 1.3m ish...

ss. c.santin . he's a 69 rated ss who can play in differant places on both sides of the pitch , he can play sm,am,ss,cf, a good solid sub , he cost 1.2m ish...

ss. palacio . he's a 73 rated player who is being kept out of the team my smolarek at the moment , a really excellent player who was a great shot on him , a good passer , good dribbler , this guy has the lot , he can play ss or cf or wf and has the marauding card . he cost 2.1m ish and is worth every penny...

ss. podolski . he's a 74 rated player who can play sm,ss,cf,wf on both sides of the pitch ,and has the marauding card , ive only had him for 6 or 7 games but my first impressions are that he's a strong player with good passing a decent shot , good speed and seems to know where the net is , he cost 2.6m ish ...

well thats my cheapo team , im having great fun playing with the so called lesser player's in the game and shall continue to do so .. enjoy the game and play fair:)
 

bilalvadia

Registered User
completely agree with Geordie01. but like Fasso says its easy to counter once you know how they play. my main gripe is the control issues with the AI. Its terrible in this PES. But still love MLO. its so addictive

My current team is:

GK: Jones
DEF:
CB: J Boateng and Bouma
SB: Insua and Emerton
MID:
DM: Barton (C)
CM: Fellaini and J Henderson
ATT:
SS: A. Sanchez and Di Maria
CF: Baros

Currently in Div 3
W: 82
D:57
L:52

Hope to see some of you guys online
PS3 ID: Bilalv
 

jamesi

Registered User
ive tried to do something similar ie not sign superstrars with my ajax team on xbox.gt elitejamesi ive played a lot of teams with mesi and ronaldo=run shoot score repeat lol.constant cut backs.these people are so desperate to win its quite sad.also buffon as keeper etc.i dont see point of that its not a proper game just cheating then.i love when i get a good game with good teams.
 

LaMagaCirce

Registered User
I'm in Div 2 (PES 3) playing an all italian team trying to reach Div 1 next week.
I actually get mad when losing to stupid kids running around with Arshavin, Dotan, Agbonlahor, Aguero, Robben, Ribery...etc but what the hell...is just a stupid game and everyone is free to play it how they want to.

This is my team:

GK: De Sanctis
CB: Paolo Cannavaro
CB: Bonucci
SB: M.Motta
SB: De Ceglie
DMF: D'Agostino
AMF: Balotelli
SMF: Diamanti
SMF: Cossu
CF: Iaquinta
CF:Quagliarella

Bench:
CF: Sculli
and that's it, all other players are crap.

I try to focus on gameplay rather than running with the ball on the sides and doing the stupid low cross in to the box...I do the starting lob which so many people hate...but you can defend from that so i see no problem on it; you just need to remember to run back without changing players.
 

martinho1983

Registered User
my team is fairly poor at the moment, have had a 4.5m limit that i stick to, managed to get in div 4 though after winning two competitions, add me my gamertag is mustyjellyfish3 i try to play the proper way and will look forward to some games against people with similar players to me
 

Geordie01

Registered User
I am right in saying that having players like messi zlatan ronaldo etc does give you an advantage doesn't it!!! God this guy just gave me a full on rant on how they don't give the player any advantage what so ever! Ha god it made me laugh!
 

Geordie01

Registered User
Just to highlight messi Arshavin ronaldo villa etc etc boring boring boring boring!!!!!! No skill in involved!!!!!!!!!
 

martinho1983

Registered User
my team at the moment is
lupatelli
santacroce, hanley, muckleloak, ruskin.
fathy, pancgerelli, mariga,nolan, buonanotte, brahimi, barnes
orphadiu, sculli, villalba, m.diouf, D.J campbell.
 

TheDubs

Registered User
Robbie Keane in his older years is still outstanding. He is literally like Messi, his agility makes him able to slip past defenders and he's one of those players who can just score from impossible angles. Has 83 for accuracy, 78 for shot power, 85 for accuracy. Not quite Messi!

D'agostino is outstanding for 3 million. De la Pena too for 3 million. Theres so many great passers for 2 and 3 million that just are coming to mind. I was so tempted to buy them all! Nene as well for 3 million, great shooting, great passer, great dribbler. Pires and Zenden for old schoolers are great AMF's but not sure on their prices. Pires might still be a hefty price over 4 mil.


Hyypia is slow, but ultra physical and a rock in defence. Puyol has nothing on him!
 
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