Flowhunter
Registered User
Hi, I´m new here so I´m going to explain a little bit about how I ended up here on the PESgaming-forum before I move on to topic. From northern europe, so exuse some misuse of the english language here and there. I´m a big PES fan by accident, bought FIFA 13 pretty much on release date which my Xbox decided to chew on a bit after 2-3 months - left a big scratch on the CD. Then I thought "no more FIFA until next salary", but when the big date arrived I bought PES 2013 instead so now I´m hooked, and eventually (obviously) I ended up here. So that´s my PES-story! Let´s go straight to topic.
Topic!
I do have a thing for unorthodox formations* and I hope you could share some of your most succesful and/or unusual formations here. Either explain how it´s lined up or take a pictures from your formations from PES.
*I.e NOT any of the following formations: 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1(4-5-1), 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2.
My interest in innovative formations/tactics comes from that it is the new tactical inventions of today that is deciding how the future football is going to be played.
For example: I find 4-6-0 very efficient for Real Madrid.
How I played 4-6-0 with Real Madrid:
------------------------------------------------
---C.Ronaldo(LWF)-------------------------
----------------------------Di Maria(RMF)----
----------------Özil(AMF)---------------------
-------------------------------------------------
---Modric(CMF)------------------------------
----------------------------Khedira(DMF)----
------------------------------------------------
---------------X.Alonso(DMF)----------------
--Marcelo(LB)-------------------Arbeloa(RB)
---------------Ramos(CB)----Pepe(CB)----
-----------------------Casillas----------------
Comment:
Why 4-6-0?
C.Ronaldo placed as a LWF, as an "inverted winger", his best position - I do not need to explain this choice. Also note that PES 2013 requires of you to have AT LEAST one player in attack, so it was not possible to move him down to LMF.
Di Maria, is also a good "inverted winger" - maybe not good enought for Real IRL but still has okey stats in PES as RMF. He could play as RWF in this formation as well, I think which is better (RMF or RWF) in this formation a matter of how much you are in controll of the possesion, how good your opponent is and how they play.
Whith Özil playing as AMF instead of having a real nr 9 like Benzema the centrebacks are going to face a dilemma - to mark him and run out of position and towards the midfieldzone - (which gives Ronaldo/Di Maria the opportuity to cut in from the wide zones and score) - Ronaldo and Di Maria are placed higher up in the field than Özil just so they can take this kind of runs.
With Modric as IMF on the left you can move Özil slightly to the right to support Di Maria, that isn´t really of the same world-class-caliber as Cristiano.
Khedira and Alonso as DMF plus the 4-man backline gives the formation defensive stability.
This formation makes the most out of Ronaldo possible! Even better than conventional 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 in my opinion.
The tactics are set on fast counter-attacks. The inverted wingers are ment to strike fast on the counter when the oppositions CB:s are out of position trying to deal with Özils "ultra-high-placed-AMF-role". Most often Özil makes the assist to the inverted winger who scores (typicaly Ronaldo).
Zona Mista* is another tactic i find useful with Real Madrid.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zouna_mista.gif
And my take on it was something like:
---------------------------------Benzema(CF)----------
----------------Ronaldo(SS)-----------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------Di Maria(RMF)
-------------------------------------Özil(AMF)-----------
-----------------Modric(IM)------------------------------
--------------------------Alonso(DM)--------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
----Marcelo(LB)-----------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
-------------Varane(CB)-----------------Ramos(CB)--
----------------------------Pepe(SW)--------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------Casillas----------------------
The strength of Zona Mista for Real is that it makes it possible to start with both Pepe and Varane, Modric and Özil, we can move up Ronaldo to attack so that he can focus on goalscoring and as well Marcelo gets kind of a "custom made" role for him on the field, a LB positioned high up in the field. Ramos is a CB in this formation (the sweeper-thing in Zona Mista would not work else) but you can command him to go up in attack just like he would as a Right-Back via custom-PES-tactics.
So what are your unconventional formations/tactics? Please explain what the tactical reason behind the formation are
Topic!
I do have a thing for unorthodox formations* and I hope you could share some of your most succesful and/or unusual formations here. Either explain how it´s lined up or take a pictures from your formations from PES.
*I.e NOT any of the following formations: 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1(4-5-1), 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2.
My interest in innovative formations/tactics comes from that it is the new tactical inventions of today that is deciding how the future football is going to be played.
For example: I find 4-6-0 very efficient for Real Madrid.
How I played 4-6-0 with Real Madrid:
------------------------------------------------
---C.Ronaldo(LWF)-------------------------
----------------------------Di Maria(RMF)----
----------------Özil(AMF)---------------------
-------------------------------------------------
---Modric(CMF)------------------------------
----------------------------Khedira(DMF)----
------------------------------------------------
---------------X.Alonso(DMF)----------------
--Marcelo(LB)-------------------Arbeloa(RB)
---------------Ramos(CB)----Pepe(CB)----
-----------------------Casillas----------------
Comment:
Why 4-6-0?
C.Ronaldo placed as a LWF, as an "inverted winger", his best position - I do not need to explain this choice. Also note that PES 2013 requires of you to have AT LEAST one player in attack, so it was not possible to move him down to LMF.
Di Maria, is also a good "inverted winger" - maybe not good enought for Real IRL but still has okey stats in PES as RMF. He could play as RWF in this formation as well, I think which is better (RMF or RWF) in this formation a matter of how much you are in controll of the possesion, how good your opponent is and how they play.
Whith Özil playing as AMF instead of having a real nr 9 like Benzema the centrebacks are going to face a dilemma - to mark him and run out of position and towards the midfieldzone - (which gives Ronaldo/Di Maria the opportuity to cut in from the wide zones and score) - Ronaldo and Di Maria are placed higher up in the field than Özil just so they can take this kind of runs.
With Modric as IMF on the left you can move Özil slightly to the right to support Di Maria, that isn´t really of the same world-class-caliber as Cristiano.
Khedira and Alonso as DMF plus the 4-man backline gives the formation defensive stability.
This formation makes the most out of Ronaldo possible! Even better than conventional 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 in my opinion.
The tactics are set on fast counter-attacks. The inverted wingers are ment to strike fast on the counter when the oppositions CB:s are out of position trying to deal with Özils "ultra-high-placed-AMF-role". Most often Özil makes the assist to the inverted winger who scores (typicaly Ronaldo).
Zona Mista* is another tactic i find useful with Real Madrid.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zouna_mista.gif
And my take on it was something like:
---------------------------------Benzema(CF)----------
----------------Ronaldo(SS)-----------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------Di Maria(RMF)
-------------------------------------Özil(AMF)-----------
-----------------Modric(IM)------------------------------
--------------------------Alonso(DM)--------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
----Marcelo(LB)-----------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
-------------Varane(CB)-----------------Ramos(CB)--
----------------------------Pepe(SW)--------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------Casillas----------------------
The strength of Zona Mista for Real is that it makes it possible to start with both Pepe and Varane, Modric and Özil, we can move up Ronaldo to attack so that he can focus on goalscoring and as well Marcelo gets kind of a "custom made" role for him on the field, a LB positioned high up in the field. Ramos is a CB in this formation (the sweeper-thing in Zona Mista would not work else) but you can command him to go up in attack just like he would as a Right-Back via custom-PES-tactics.
So what are your unconventional formations/tactics? Please explain what the tactical reason behind the formation are
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