It's so frustrating to see that Konami have failed to build upon the foundation PES 2011 provided. It was by no means a perfect game but PES 2012 should have built on it.
In actual fact it appears it (Pro 2011) has been entirely disregarded. It must be understood that there was no need to create a new PES game entirely or "revolutionize" the gameplay. I personally felt 2011 did that to an extent and rightly so. Now 2012 has refused to take on board any good points from its predecessor bringing with it it's own flaws.
Surely each PES instalment should build upon one another yet this has not been the case for a long time now. It should not feel that we are playing two entirely different games every year (unless the later instalment is awesome of course).
To backup my points I'll quote ftgpete who stated the following:
1. My keepers have dived over back passes believe it or not and make too many horrendous mistakes. I know goal keepers make great saves, I've seen it in the game, but they make too many terrible mistakes which should not happen. Even Aam on the WENB forums has si that goal keepers need to be imrpoved for PES 2013
2. I think you've completely have not understood my point. A guy will cross it in, I'll be in a good position with my CB, the cursor for reason will switch to to a player who is not in a good defensive position. The play who I was with will duck for no reason and the cross will go to an unmarked man in the box for an easy header/tap in. The cursor changing ruins defending, it's just terrible programming and needs to be fixed.
3. Yes they do, again I'll be in a good position with my CB and it will switch to my LB or RB, my two CB's will then divide the middle so 10 tanks can drive in let alone someone like Pato and by the time I switch it's already too late.
4. Err, I know but the point it should not happen even with manual goal keeping. The fact someone on the board has to tell me this is ridiculous don't you think? You have to position him cause the AI goalkeeper is too retarded. Speaks volumes does it?
5. I can beat most teams on superstar, I just think every AI attacks like this and in my mind it is boring and repitious , people have helped me with formations and strategies on Evo Web but I still think the AI attacks the way I explained. They hoof the ball, you have to super cancel and your defence is unresponsive and they pratically always land to the AI player. The AI was fantastic and the build up in the demos but now all they do is hoof the ball and counter attack in mass numbers.
6. I agree and I always think gameplay is most important, but animation does need improvement as it's been untouched for years.
7. Again you shouldn't need to super cancel, it shouldn't be there in the first place.
8. Fair enough but I still think the catch up bug is in the game even though they said they got rid of it. Mean I mean speed I don't mean abusing the speed merchant and dribbling and I mean kicking the ball ahead and beating the player for pace. I know people don't want people like in Fifa who abuse players pace but is that not realistic? Theo Walcott wouldn't een be in the prem without his pace and this is coming from an Arsenal fan.
9. Again fair enough but I don't think the AI tire at all, they seem just to run and run and not lose any steam. Really do believe they need to implement a proper stamina system for both AI and player controlled players so substituions become vital.
10. I didn't say you couldn't score range range shots but for me the ball does not feel heavy so I don't get the sense I'm smacking into the net. I've scor goals from outside the box but they didn't feel like scramers to me and were very unsatisfying.
There are just too many bugs in this game for me to like, PES 2011 had many as well but I enjoyed that game immensley and over looked them. Again, I think Konami have taken one step foward with 2011 and now two step backs with this one.
2011 MLO = Great fun 2012 = Unplayable filled with abusing speed merchants
2011 ML = Great fun 2012 = A whinge feast, play a player all the time and drop him one match because he is tired and he'll come into your office and complain about not being played
Th passing, shooting, goalkeepers, the scripting etc. Everything feels worse than it did in 2011. THey improved the unresponsive dribbling in 2011 but too much. Every player know has the touch of Zidane and Bergkamp, Konami never have a middleground, something either has to under done or over done.
