Why pes is getting shiter and shiter???
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magic.7
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...because they don´t listen to the people who play the game.
and maybe cultural problems....just listen to the konami chants and you will here what i mean. (for example: this horrible.....barca, barca, barca, barca, barca)
..just sounds asian. (just like at the Olympic Games in China)
No atmosphere at all.
and maybe cultural problems....just listen to the konami chants and you will here what i mean. (for example: this horrible.....barca, barca, barca, barca, barca)
..just sounds asian. (just like at the Olympic Games in China)
No atmosphere at all.
They are idiots
Japanesse companies have always been famous for reacting slowly to change because they are rooted in tradition. The whole organisation for me needs change starting with the idiot Seabass. Why is this guys job safe. As the guy who overseas the development of the game he has done ZERO on the current gen.
Stick these games on a ps2 and fans would be happy. Except...wait a minute...we arent on PS2 anymore. Look at Activision, they moved on to the current gen of games with a bang and their profits this year will slap Seabass and his band of idiot devs back to the stone ages if Konami doesnt start making a good product.
Gameplay is key in EU. Maybe not in Jap where they find dumb stuff like "human tetris" funny. So they should completely create seperate divisions rather than sell a universal product. Toyota does the same thing with their cars.
I dont care about graphics anymore. I just want gameplay.
Dont take out the things which work. Develop the things which dont work and fix the online. The only time they got it right was on XBOX with pes6. What a bunch of ....
Japanesse companies have always been famous for reacting slowly to change because they are rooted in tradition. The whole organisation for me needs change starting with the idiot Seabass. Why is this guys job safe. As the guy who overseas the development of the game he has done ZERO on the current gen.
Stick these games on a ps2 and fans would be happy. Except...wait a minute...we arent on PS2 anymore. Look at Activision, they moved on to the current gen of games with a bang and their profits this year will slap Seabass and his band of idiot devs back to the stone ages if Konami doesnt start making a good product.
Gameplay is key in EU. Maybe not in Jap where they find dumb stuff like "human tetris" funny. So they should completely create seperate divisions rather than sell a universal product. Toyota does the same thing with their cars.
I dont care about graphics anymore. I just want gameplay.
Dont take out the things which work. Develop the things which dont work and fix the online. The only time they got it right was on XBOX with pes6. What a bunch of ....
I agree konami's new pro 2010 is summed up in two words effin rank. why??? Several reasons. I must admit first that the graphics are better and some features are better however the fun is gone from pro evo. The button delay is stupid how many prem players take 3 seconds to pass a ball??? The formations are good ideas but they do not work is it me or does it feel like you are always passing for nothing. The players play like they are all got pianos on they backs. Counter attacks are really hard to do. Also I have found that on regular mode is too easy with the teams unable to get a shot on you. However professional means that they get more possession off you and do nothing but play along the back line over and over again. They rarely have a shot but get 60% possession. However also when i play I rarely get more than 6-8 shots in a 90 min match that last 10 mins regardsless of teams or personel. And only about 5 of them on target. Some games you can get only 3 shots on target and 3 goals others you can have 5 shots and one goal??? this is more realistic I agree but if im playing as man utd vs hull I should bet getting <65% possession and about 15-20 shots on goal and not spend the time chasing CB passing back and forth for no reason. The players are far too slow to press the players to retrieve the ball. The skills do not work properly. The ref's are awful and the pens from the side are a complete joke. The fun of being able to quick counter and have a fun experience of hammering teams on shots even if only a third or half of the on target shots will be on target and you may only still win 2 nil. Where as now it is too boring pass, pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass bored yet shot. The fun needs to be put back konami get your finger out and sort it out.
villafan101
Registered User
face it, fifa is betta an has been for the last 3 years, pes has lost the flowing football it was liked for. in my opinion chmps league mode an europa league mode is a waste of time, pes needs to get the flowing football back first. if pes spent as much time improving the tinny gameplay as they did working on the graphics of torres and messi!!!!!....................
abbafather
Registered User
This is it lads I'm sick to death of giving this bollocks of a game ONE MORE CHANCE! Its over for me I've bought fifa10 and its twice the game pes10 is! No shit, I've loved pes for years but have to admit this game has lost its way,it is getting worse and worse while fifa is getting stronger and stronger. I just want a game were I can enjoy all the game modes and let's be honest pes is not it! So this is my swan song with this bloody game. Do yourself a favour if your reading this buy fifa its better than this muck!
atifronaldo
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pes 2010 sucks alot. The worse football game online. Every opponent beat me online, the control dont work. AI win everytime. The tactics suck, why so advanced? 2009, 2008 , 06, 05, 04 , 03 , 02 , 01 even virtual striker 2 is better.
I hate that game, 55£ flushed in toilet.
my rating was 700 points on pes 2008
shit shit shit shit shit
I hate that game, 55£ flushed in toilet.
my rating was 700 points on pes 2008
shit shit shit shit shit
3 D 3 A D 3
Registered User
Well I'll have to say I always liked PES, but this year in my faved mode BaL, The AI is best described as 'Retarded' players running infront of pases, usually to me when Im on the attack, and the Goalkeeping is attrocious, just recently playing for North London (Arsenal) the keeper dived to the player that was on his own team just as he was clearing it, the keeper deflected it, went straight to Rooney... 1-0.
and the Graphics on PES are better than FIFA's, but I wish they'd for once try to improve the thing which is to me much much much more important, Gameplay... but no they enhance Torres and Messi and leave everyone else exactly the same since PES2009, But 1 year older. So soon I'm getting FIFA2010, to try that out... I heard FIFA's commentary is much better than PES...
and the Graphics on PES are better than FIFA's, but I wish they'd for once try to improve the thing which is to me much much much more important, Gameplay... but no they enhance Torres and Messi and leave everyone else exactly the same since PES2009, But 1 year older. So soon I'm getting FIFA2010, to try that out... I heard FIFA's commentary is much better than PES...
wintermute00
Registered User
many reasons
- button delay
- completely ignores AI fouls, never plays advantage, no penalties for player even with blatant, blatant fouls in the box
- nerfed tricks/dribbling
- nerfed through balls (WTF happened, agreed 2009 lofted through balls were overpowered but this is absolutely ridiculous how the slide rule pass is basically impossible)
- scripted AI (aka 'i wanna score' power mode) - yes make the computer play better by MAKING BETTER MOVES not by giving them a magic +15 speed boost that you can clearly see on the screem
- stupid 'passive' AI like waiting to receive ball by standing still and not running towards it, or how you win a header and the guy receiving the flick on stands there and lets it get stolen by opposition. Yes I know there's super cancel but it takes that extra split second to hit it and FFS why do we need it anyway, why don't you just LET ME CONTROL THE FREAKIN PLAYER I'VE SELECTED?
And the big one...
EVERY SINGLE COMPUTER TEAM PLAYS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY (ALMOST).
They all want to play like Barca, even low ranked 'get it in the mixer' style teams in real life, and even when its raining hard. Pass backward and sideways all day, never ever attempt a 50/50 through ball or make overlapping runs etc. Also since when did defenders do cryuff turns out of defence?!?!?!
Its really stupid and BORING BORING BORING. I can sit there and pass the ball amongst my defence for entire game and get draw after draw as well, but unlike the CPU I actually want to ENJOY THE FREAKIN GAME
Konami... are you listening.... PES2008: horrible. I said OK they're allowed a bad day. 2009: not so bad but still so flawed (esp lack of AI runs!!!). 2010: better but for every improvement (master league, more formation options, ball physics etc.) there is equal step back and the real problem - AI, both the 'passive take control of your player and you can't do anything about it apart from supercancel' and computer team style - is not fixed, and then on top of it all, you introduce BUTTON LAG what the hell!!!!!!!
3 bad PES in a row has been the last straw for many long time PES players (like me and all my friends).
- button delay
- completely ignores AI fouls, never plays advantage, no penalties for player even with blatant, blatant fouls in the box
- nerfed tricks/dribbling
- nerfed through balls (WTF happened, agreed 2009 lofted through balls were overpowered but this is absolutely ridiculous how the slide rule pass is basically impossible)
- scripted AI (aka 'i wanna score' power mode) - yes make the computer play better by MAKING BETTER MOVES not by giving them a magic +15 speed boost that you can clearly see on the screem
- stupid 'passive' AI like waiting to receive ball by standing still and not running towards it, or how you win a header and the guy receiving the flick on stands there and lets it get stolen by opposition. Yes I know there's super cancel but it takes that extra split second to hit it and FFS why do we need it anyway, why don't you just LET ME CONTROL THE FREAKIN PLAYER I'VE SELECTED?
And the big one...
EVERY SINGLE COMPUTER TEAM PLAYS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY (ALMOST).
They all want to play like Barca, even low ranked 'get it in the mixer' style teams in real life, and even when its raining hard. Pass backward and sideways all day, never ever attempt a 50/50 through ball or make overlapping runs etc. Also since when did defenders do cryuff turns out of defence?!?!?!
Its really stupid and BORING BORING BORING. I can sit there and pass the ball amongst my defence for entire game and get draw after draw as well, but unlike the CPU I actually want to ENJOY THE FREAKIN GAME
Konami... are you listening.... PES2008: horrible. I said OK they're allowed a bad day. 2009: not so bad but still so flawed (esp lack of AI runs!!!). 2010: better but for every improvement (master league, more formation options, ball physics etc.) there is equal step back and the real problem - AI, both the 'passive take control of your player and you can't do anything about it apart from supercancel' and computer team style - is not fixed, and then on top of it all, you introduce BUTTON LAG what the hell!!!!!!!
3 bad PES in a row has been the last straw for many long time PES players (like me and all my friends).