WTF has happened to this game?

[Craney91]

Anybody else experiencing this?

I loaded the game up the other day, first time in roughly a month. I play master league single player mostly, I've gone of all the online stuff now, the older I get.

So anyway, I load the game up, still know what everything is, buttons etc. Haven't forgot anything or how to play, I'm pretty good at the game.

Downloaded the latest squads, as you do.

Set up a game on Regular difficulty Arsenal vs Milan.....and the game play is absolutely horrendous! Totally different to what it was!

It's slow, it's sluggish, the game looks as if it's running at a different speed. The passing is slow, controls are unresponsive, the shooting is weird, I can't change to the right players I want when I'm defending. My players are committing fouls even though I'm not pressing any button or committing, when I do commit, It's either a foul or the CPU will just waltz past my players stupid animation. CPU players are now doing things I've never seen it do, Robinho was abusing this stupid grass-cutting outside of the boot, curling animation every time he shot. Scoring at least 2 out of 3.

This is on regular difficulty to, the difficulty I've always played on and never changed.

Now, I know the game wasn't perfect when it was released....But the game just isn't the same at all to me, since the last time I played it about a month ago.

I haven't changed any settings, I play on default everything. I don't play online.

Every time it seems one of these squad/DLC updates comes out, the game play system changes for the worse.

I've never played such an unresponsive mess, it wasn't even this bad on release.

WTF IS GOING ON WITH COMPUTER GAMES TODAY?

 

[OnlyProEvo]

It wasn't a gameplay patch, so it must be you...

I certainly don't see any differences, apart from the updated rosters, new kits, etc.

Still, it's always weird when people talk about this, after DLC is put out there.

 

[Craney91]

It wasn't a gameplay patch, so it must be you...

I certainly don't see any differences, apart from the updated rosters, new kits, etc.

Still, it's always weird when people talk about this, after DLC is put out there.

I know it's not a patch or update. I know that.

It happens with FIFA to, when they bring squad updates out for that. Gameplay seems to always change, in some case for the better, in this case for the worse.

I don't know how it does it, but everytime DLC comes out for Pro Evo, the gameplay gets sluggish. Like I said, I haven't played it for a month and when I loaded it up, it was like playing through treacle...so slow.

I feel its something to do with clogging the memory up with files. When I used to use an option file on the Hard Drive, I noticed gameplay take a hit....so I stopped using the option files and reverted to default.

 

[techboy11]

I can only play it on the PC now, heavily patched. The PS3 is just scripted bullshit, with balloon physics.

 

[Amateur]

I can only play it on the PC now, heavily patched. The PS3 is just scripted bullshit, with balloon physics.

Seeing how you can patch the game on PC, to the point where a game that you consider unplayable can be a solid game, what can Konami do with PES13 to get you to buy the PS3 version or even the PC version of PES13?

 

[techboy11]

Seeing how you can patch the game on PC, to the point where a game that you consider unplayable can be a solid game, what can Konami do with PES13 to get you to buy the PS3 version or even the PC version of PES13?

Well the patchers on the PC have only really scratched the surface even after months.

Goalies are now much more reliable, and some of the animations in saves are superb...but there is still a tendency for them to make a fk up of some situations when the scripts kick in.

Keeping these scripts down to a bare minimum has been the sort of goal that everyone wants.

The patchers can polish as much as they can and it is at least playable, but KONAMI need to look at several areas, out of the box, to be taken seriously moving on.

1) Shot speed - why is it that only a few players can hit a ball hard when even the guy from a Norway League Division Four can hit the ball hard. Why has Gerrard literally got a thunderbolt and Henderson feathers it to the goals. This has to change. Anyone can shot with speed now, the disparity between those with very hard shots and just hard shots must be lowered.

2) Animations/graphics - a patched PC game looks a picture. But this is what it should be like on PC/console out of the box. No excuses.

3) Decrease scripting and increase CPU possession and general passing moves - too much silly CPU dribbling, too little passing moves. CPU dribbling too close and unrealistic, especially at the higher levels. Patch makers can limit this, but unfortunately it's at the heart of the core gameplay

4) Player individuality - linked with above, Heskey shouldn't dribble like Messi.

5) CPU and human off the same hymn sheet - there are governing laws of earth that decree that some variables are the same, like two arms, two legs, player A who has speed of 75 is slower than player B who's speed is 82; but this isn't the case in PES. Stats are largely ignored as the cheat boosts kick in at the higher levels, must be sorted. Get the CPU to play more intelligently not more cheatily.

6) Form arrows totally changed - the orange and red form arrows I believe are a major contributing factor to CPU cheating. Scrap these two

7) Scrap speed merchant, and lots of the silly gimmick cards, online is an absolute joke

8) Introduce (again) acceleration - there's simply no acceleration in PES, players go from 0-60 in one second.

9) Collisions, clipping, animations - all linked, but fifteen yard through balls that go through players legs, torsos, heads, etc, it's just plain wrong

10) Variety of play - we're in 2012 and still nobody has gotten Barce right? Why aren't they keeping the ball all game making me chase it around. All the human player has to do is wait five seconds and possession is handed over.

Sigh...

I could go on forever.

Oh, shooting. Just too inconsistent. Sometimes the ball goes right when I aim right, sometimes it doesn't. This is stupid. I don't care if the execution of the shot is poor, and the ball trickles right, goes over the bar right, the player falls down and breaks his ankle right....I don't care........as long a it goes right. I shouldn't be aiming bottom right on the analogue stick only to see the ball career top left, just stupid.

Master League scripting; getting the game to play consistent in all stadia; ball physics that don't resemble a balloon; responsive shooting like the old PES's; tactics screen that works, right now the CPU can pretty much play the game as it sees fit, and can pressure manically, the human player seems restricted here. Stamina, a workable stamina system for the human AND CPU; yesterday I passed the ball around my back four and the Bolton striker did NOT stop running for thirty minutes of game time. IRL he would have needed an oxygen mask and a trip to Bolton A+E.

CPU not controlling your players and manipulating their movements away from strikers for example (ala FIFA style). Any camera setting you want. A passing system that is one for all.

Anymore lol......

 

[beeoasis]

Great post. In a nutshell the game is a mess!