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i have a feeling you would only have to train them for short while, so it aint that bad. also, i think you can do master league without the increasing/decreasing stats so you dont have to do it. basically, if you do it with the increasing/decreasing stats, it means its like a manager game too...

this is going by each page number on the bottom of each page. this is a synopsis of each page and bear in mind the french talk a lot of sh1te so if it seems short, dont worry, you havent missed out on anything much. 3. -first of all, theyre talking about we8, not pes4. -menus are more...

right lads, ger to the rescue here. im leaving for france in a month so i need to brush up on my french, so im going to do a complete translation page by page, give me a bit of time.

how about the fact he's in the best centre back pairing in the premiership and you don't have cbt as a position, never mind a primary position. i'd give his defence 88.

excellent... thought i might have to buy/steal a 100hz telly! youre a great man mikeom1

finally, mikeom1, a man who might know what im on about. my tv says it supports ntsc(yes it speaks to me). however, it also says 50hz frequency on the back. so, does this mean it wont support 60hz/ntsc? are 60hz/ntsc the same thing? do i need to buy one of those expensive 100hz tellys? please...

yo gaz, do you definitely need an rgb scart lead? ps2 one wont do?

god that part of the thread was funny, it was like basil fawlty talking to manuel

nice one lads, good to hear, here's hoping its early

yeah great stuff ziggy. might have a few questions to ask on this thread when i get the game. ;)

just wondering what theyre like, if anyone has ordered from them in the past or is for pes3. heard they deliver some games a few days before release date? vrai ou faux? mercy buckets lads

just to add more confusion to the pot, theres a thread on evo-web: http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=13304 which says if you play pes3 on 60hz, it plays at the same speed as the beta and we7. can anyone confirm this?

red, ive noticed the way you like everything you do in the game to be dependent on you and you alone. well, i know where youre coming from, but this aint the way games work. for example, in the demo, when you make a long pass, the direction is dictated by both you and the computer, but mostly...

anyways red, whos to say the computer player didnt nudge your player to make a bad header? makes it more skilful if you ask me.

god that fcuker cr4sh annoys me so much. actually wait, hold on... nobody can be that annoying in real life, surely not... ah got it, some bastard psychologist is testing us out pretending to be an utter dumb sh1t, and see how we react. very clever herr psychologeist...

yeah thats my biggest worry as well, never liked the stick! although ive been trying to play the demo with it, i think with time i MIGHT get used to it. would like to know what those who own the beta copy play with, stick or d-pad?

yeah i think zyg is right, what it was exactly was like this on shirt edit screen: 1. on top there was a symbol for the back of the shirt, with whatever number and name you want. 2. below that was a symbol for the front of the shirt with off written across it. i took this to mean you could put...

somechris, just read the ops2 review and saw an editing screen where it seems you can put something on the front and the back of the shirt, name on the back, not sure what on the front. thats how it looked to me anyway. i was quite happy to see that, as i thought the same as you...

just read the review in the ops2 mag and it says youll really have to get used to the left analogue stick, as the movements will be really subtle now. ive used the dpad since i was but a toddler, dunno if i can convert to the stick!

just read the review in ops2m, and have to say it is a very good review, not just informative but funny too. they're obviously as much pes fans as the other mag. they have a cool bit where they try to convert "non-believers" (ie fifa players) to the "true path". hilarious stuff. :D