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If you look at the header of the first post of this patch on evo-web, it says: 12.12.05 : Proevolutionline Superpatch PES5 PC DAY So it's coming the 12th

you must first create an option file ingame, and then copy the pesfan option file over the konami option file. option file is located in my documents\konami\pro evolution soccer 5\save\folder 1

I get cards all the time for stupid fouls. If you push somebody (not intensionally), often I get yellow. I really liked pes, but this year I want to throw it in the bin (but I can't, still trying to like it).

Yeah, I know what you mean. The time between pressing a button and the reaction of the player is to slow, and often players do not what you say.

download the option file from pesfan.com it has correct team names, player names, kits and most of the transfers are done.

The PesFan option file is released within it's community, not outside.

Not sure about that, but it will not take long. There is already a ps2 version option file, so the pc version is not long away.

There is already an option file from pesfan with corect names, team names, transfers etc. So patching will be done again this year. Bring it on !!

Yes PES 5 will be released on pc. I already pre-ordered it. And the release date will be 28 october, so it's nearly there.

Never heard of it, the only version I know is English.

Well, the best all in one (kits, stadiums etc.) at the moment is the obsession patch. Search the forum for other threads about it.

Some parts are auto-install, some you must do manually. But there is a readme included.

At the moment the Obsession patch is the best.

Well I felt the same in the beginning, PES 5 is shit compared to PES 4. But now after playing the demo many times, I must agree that PES 5 is better than PES 4. The movement and eveything is more realistic than ever.

No, you can only can get it from the author's site as far as I know.

The obsession patch is a very good start for you I think. It has updated transfers, teams and kits. Plus you get 3rd kits, balls and shoes. Also there are new and updated stadiums. It's not very hard to install and if there are any problems, there are enough people around here which can help...

Did you configured the second controller in the setup menu (outside PES) ? If so you're friend must 'push' the controller icon to his team, when selecting the teams.

This is the most updated thread of the Obsession patch on evo-web (main patch + updates) http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22757 This are the little faults I'm talking about. "Well some shirts do not have the right collar, it's all messed up but I also had that with The Wolfs...

The most up to date overall patch is the Obsesion patch. But it has some little faults. And about the missing radar in the Ultimate patch, you only need to download a specific file and the radar is back. It's on the authors website.

You need to install kitserver. In your main pes4 folder there is a new folder "kitserver", in this folder there is an .exe file. Click this, and click on the install button. If everything is alright you should be able to choose your shirt with the "1" button for the home team and with the "2"...