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I accept that people want realism and it is definately the case that starting with match squads is realistic. It isn't, however, as challenging. Nor is starting with your fave young players. These guys probably have waaaaay more upward potential than Ordaz etc do and by playing with them from...

Do you mean you can just sign anyone you want? This doesn't seem possible given the money you get at start etc. I know you could sign 3 players before on the earlier games, is that what you mean? Either way, I think it is rubbish and that for the real challenge you should start with the dross.

The controller thing is not cool.... it's like a reminder you are playing a game when I imagine most of us are enjoying playing PES5 for its' realism.It's a bit like all that "the teams step out onto the virtual pitch" nonsense I remember hearing in Fifa the last time I played it. Not good.

Yeah, I lost Stelios for 33 weeks in second game of season on an International League...he didn't play again that season!

I will listen to that twit's opinion when he can spell "embarrassing".

Does anyone know how to use it on the Xbox version? If it is the right trigger and black button as I imagine, I have no chance of ever using super cancel. Pad is too bulky for that. Silly design if so.

The problem a lot of people seem to be having (and I am one of those on occasion), is that they played so much PES4 that they still keep trying to do things they got away with on that game in PES5. I am playing on 6*. A lot of games end 0-0, but just as often I, or the computer, win 1-0. Often...

Not too sure about defenders(will check this out when I next play), but was playing an International Cup with Belgium on 6* and Buffel nabbed the winner with a header from a corner for me. He was playing as the AM, so I clearly have more than just the 2 forwards and a winger in box and the only...

Beat Bulgaria 4-0 with Belgium in Euro Champs on 5*, but that's rare for me... a lot of 0-0 draws at moment.

Yeah, I use them...can really give you an edge. I particularly like having my full backs go forward and overlap the wide midfielders...this was an awesome tactic on PES4 and just tonight I have scored a couple of cool diving headers on PES5 using full backs to cross. Not as easy to score at...

I have managed to use A(or x on ps2 pad) to nick the ball off a defenders feet and run on and score with Reyes already..... I think people are overstating this to be honest.

Surely it depends on whether it constitutes a barge whether it is penalised in real life? You can tackle with the shoulder, but not over aggressively.... that said, I will have to play the game again to decide if the refs in the game punish these tackles too harshly.

I agree. The movement of players off the ball into space when you are attacking is spectacular. I also like how you have to shield the ball to prevent the opposition getting it. It wasn't realistic that you could hit first time passes all the time on PES4 and have them go exactly where you...

The thing is, as bad as the commentary is, I have always been happy to laugh at whatever dross Pete and Trev came out with. The thing that annoys me is that they don't seem to have even given them many new things to say and that's really lazy.

Someone hasn't being reading the manual properly.... you can definately drop the ball with the goalie! One area I have no argument with is the commentary..... it's as bad as ever, but worse than that, most of the lines seem to be exactly the same as last year! It doesn't exactly fill you with...

Didn't we all used to moan our heads off that you couldn't score from outside the box hardly ever? Also, most people moaned it was too hard to score from free kicks as well.... no pleasing some people methinks. I am well happy with the free kick system now as supposed experts get the ball on...

Correct. You don't have to lunge in. You can make the AI try to play round you. Stand off from tackling until you can see an opportunity to win the ball with a foot in tackle without fouling(this will happen), or just generally get in the way. Keeping a defensive shape works too, and the AI will...

Robert Pires for Arsenal from just outside the box with a low drive into the bottom corner to rescue a 1-1 draw with Sunderland in Konami Cup group opener on 5*. Went on to win the next 2 games 1-0 and am now in ko stages!

Ratings Ahh, just won 1-0 and van Persie grabbed the winner and got an 8.5 rating! Like the litte explanations as to why players get the man of the match awards as well!

First game Pro Evo 5 arrived half an hour or so ago! After doing a silly dance of glee I put the game in and got down to business.... and the result of that was a 5* match with me as Arsenal against Barcelona..... 10 mins game... Arsenal 0-1 Barcelona Giuly 90 And my...