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Yes they will all be on but won't be licensed. Try to use the search function.

No of course I believe but I'm saying I wish I could get my hands on it.

Best score on the demo from virgin? Chance'd be a fine thing, they're still saying it's not out til the game release.

I think it's more like £5.99 these days. Nice one for the pics though Paul.

Sounds good, if a little surprising given all the shit we've had over the official demo. The mag doesn't usually get a demo until after the game's been out a while.

what team you wanna be? Arsenal what team you wanna play against? Chelsea What master league team you wanna be? Plain team to edit (FC Cosmo on we8) Player you wanna use the most? Henry/Reyes ground you wanna play at the most? Highbury

Game won't ever have it cos it's been taken over by Virgin this year. Jak - Thanks for the info but that really sucks.

What? This is beyond ridiculous, I thought someone had 'confirmed' it was coming out tomorrow and now it's not til the final thing comes out. What a waste of time.

Christ, this is getting ridiculous now. Delays, delays and more delays.

In my case - good things come to those who are too impatient to wait. I'll still get pes4 but it just means I haven't been waiting with baited breath for the past couple of months.

It's simple enough, I did the whole prem as soon as I got it and it didn't take very long. Once you've got the knack it's easy.

On winning eleven 8 there is a power bar for some headers but not all so I'd guess it'll be the same for pes4. I've definitely had a power bar for headed shots.

I'm definitely Chelsea, very tight at the back - I only let in 4 goals all last season and usually get a low-scoring 1/2 nil victory although I won my last game 5-0! Also, I've never won the league and I'm in my 4th/5th season in div1. Keep coming second to Arsenal/Liverpool.

I have: ----------------------------Frey----------------------------- ------Puyol----------------Toure--------------Van Damme--- -------------------------Mboma----------------------------- --------------------------Gerrard------------------------------...

I don't think midfielders should be judged on an overall rating, depending on the type of midfielder they are they too have specific stats i.e. short pass accuracy, tackling, defence, balance etc for a DMF and speed, dribble acuracy, stamina, long pass acuracy etc for a winger or OMF

I find the anlogue too loose and it seems like I'm way more prone to making mistakes using it so I stick with the trusty old d-pad.

Well we8 isn't cursed by the analog only controls so pes4 shouldn't be either. While on the subject though, we8 uses :circle: to confirm and :x: to go back which is confusing if you're used to :x: being the main button and :triangle: being the back button as it is in most games. Does...

Yeah it does if you do it at the end of the season the players involved stats' improve accordingly.

I'll be FC Cosmo (or whatever they're called in pes4) and edit them, that's definitely my preferred way of playing ML.

Yep it's just for ps2.