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Just cause some don't like it, respect those that crave the "Tilt" camera 1-9 angles. For us, this is a massive part of the PES experience and has been badly missed. Think of this, when you are watching a game live on TV, does the camera move smoothly from side to side in line with play? No...

I agree with every suggestion on here so far, the game is currently a shambles so needs restructuring from the ground up. Also, for me, they MUST bring back the TILT Camera Angles 1-9. Essential.

Interesting reading all the posts, I've been a PES player since ISS days and next-gen is abysmal. There are lots of theories and suggestions but the most important recommendation to Seabass and Co. is this - chuck the next gen code in the nearest fucking bin and start over! I mean...

No, he speaks the truth. PES 09 is awful, I cannot understand why people are saying its the best PES ever - they must be mental. Why is it crap you ask? Some quick reasons - * AI - Simply no movement from your players, and don't say I don't know how to play because I do. It's stupid. *...

PS2 version rocks, much better than this "next gen" stuff (even though next gen is now 3 years old lol). 09 on PS3 sucks balls and reading all the interviews about game engines etc it seems 2010 will be just the same. When will someone other than Konami and EA try to create a football...

I agree with original poster, I cannot believe that people are accepting this 3 years after "next-gen" became a phrase. PES 6 on 360 was ok, 2008 was dire and 2009 is only slightly better. And don't knock me, I have been on this site for years and have played and owned all PES games since ISS...

I know you can mod the PC version to bring in 1-9 tilt angles, but does anyone know if this will be able to be done on PS3 or 360? Cannot believe they have omitted this angle AGAIN!!! ARRGGGHHHHH!!!!:realmad:

Pretty much on a loop for the whole game, gets a bit tedious after a while but still a good idea. Shame about the rest of the game.

Yep, all the same apart from the new Player Cam. No way of tilting :(

* Bring back the Tilt (1-9) camera angle * Give player freedom to alter camera angles like FIFA 09 * Completely re-do player animations - they are just a joke at the moment * Keeper Fumbles - see above for comment * New commentary, enough of these two clowns * Better graphics, they are...

Hi guys I know there are other threads on this, but none have answered the questions and I am sure there are a few of us who would like to know the answers before release from those of you that have played the full game. The questions are - * Is the Tilt option back (1-9)? * Is there...

The more I play, the more I hear, I'm less and less impressed. Once again I think I will be left with 2 sub-standard football games to choose from. Please, another Publisher/Developer, have a go at a footie game!!

No camera tilt either. Did I hear that there were supposedly 3 different heights you could adjust, similar to FIFA, or is that just another billy bullshit rumour?

I bought FIFA and it ain't great. I played PES demo and it ain't great. The most frustrating thing is that we have two massive football games that are both average. I wish another developer would try to create a new football game, they can't do any worse surely?!

Anyone know what camera angles will be available in the full version? Only 3 on the demo. I have heard rumours about there being a manual camera that you can adjust yourself. Can anyone confirm? Cheers

Hey Fin and you guys, just played PS3 demo and there is no tilt option, however I live in hope as they have only included 3 angles in the demo - Long, Wide and Vertical. The wide option is far more playable than 2008 but first impressions are yes, an improvement, but not as much as it should...

Kev, a good quip, I like it BUT the fact is they are alienating me as I am put off buying the game because of this issue. It was a generalisation. Lets hope it is in the game though.

Fin, I am with you 100% on this one. I have enjoyed the "Tilt" since when I first started playing PES and it is the most realistic camera angle you can have. When they omitted it from 2008, that pretty much knackered the game for me and to think they may leave it out of 2009 is just...

I'm only moaning cause I want the best, and this does not look it to me. But as I said I will reserve judgement for now.

Someone please tell me this is a joke! I admit I will reserve absolute judgement until I have played it, but if this is the best they can do visually after 3 (yes, 3!) next gen attempts, then I am astonished. The players are STILL running like cartoon characters with super speed legs and nothing...