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i take i "con w" in the league table is the quitters column.

If its this bad i dont understand why they didnt just use network play, as it seems to me live is just settuing up a direct connection between the two people anyway.

was it sealed?

the live the trial code is just a seperate card so no probs swapping it.

ive been screwed over by royal mail/play.com. I was planning to go to game and buy it but cant be arsed. Me thinks i wont be too impressed with live on it, semi auto cursor news has pissed me right off.

thats is an f-ing joke! semi automatic is a pain the arse.

have u seen the feint thats in the vid? my player did it ingame fook nows how looks well good and dont recall seeing it in any other version of the game. Steps (leans) to one side then straight to other all in one movement.

nope, not many teams has european stadiums. Just out of interest whats the versus mode for? im assuming memory card master league matches but why does it need its own option on the front end?

been playing it all day, my god the through ball has never been so effective. Seems to me the keepers are good and the defences are laughably bad! Never had so much space to run in to.

just a lot more passes seem to miss their man, and go to the opponent or mainly out for a throw. Ive got the finished thing but not an original.

i got a copy of the finished xbox version and it does seem different. For some reason there seem to be a lot more wayward passes in this version.

only faster as the dvd drive is faster still loads of the dvd. Each xbox will be slightly different depending on the drive in it.

so does xbox live update the team rosters or not then?

neh buy a controller xtender then the headset will reach.

there is no difference in graphics, some of the pitches look a bit different though. I agree loading periods are much quicker, even get pro evo 4 in the corner of the screen when changing to a cut scene.

to give those that are crap at footy a head start. Hence germany :-)

ah it aint sluggish just my ps2 l2 button is a bit pap. Different pad works fine.

Got my mitts on what i believe to be a retail version of this now, theyve fixed the bugs like graphic glitches etc. But the pitch still looks funny, and it now wont let me remap the controls to suit my ps2 to xbox pad converter! Also the player change is very bloody sluggish. Hope this aint the...

warez mate. Got mine on pre order ready for live. Halo 2 is filling the void just nicely.

well the beta version is a lot smoother, no slow down whatsoever. Can tell its a faster machine as some of the cut scenes run too fast so will be slowed down in the final version. Apart from the lack of slowdown it will be the same.