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I've been playing on 5 stars from the beginning, doing really badly, scored 5 goals in the first 12 matches of the prem. Then last night... Bingo! scored 7 goals in 4 games, won 3, drew one. no goal conceded. So I think it clicked for me last night! Even Crouch is scoring now.

You have done well, my sons. Come with me to the darkside, and I will complete your training. Anyways, I converted myself first by buying Iss pro Evo (ps1) cheap and having a real go. I played my mate one evening and we were forever converted. Went over to my bros house, converted him...

...yeah but I'm talking about the PS1(psx) version of both games.:blush:

I'm pretty sure I'm right about this one. When a game is over in Iss pro evolution 2(PSX), the stats screen comes up. The commentators say their goodbyes and there is a slow porno tune playing. Slight possibility that I'm mixing it with Pes1 for the PSX. Dont think so though.

Great find, this is my fave Pes5 video yet. Is there like a compilation threat for videos from Pes5 anywhere? Can't wait.

Yeah I haven't noticed handballs on Pes4 but I often play and listen to the evening news at the same time so I have probably missed a good few calls. God knows I've often had calls I didn't understand what were about.

ok a few Qs: 1:Are Throw-ins excactly the same? Is the receiving player closed down more efficiently then in Pes4? 2: are goals celebrated accordingly? For instance, I was playing Roma vs. Juve second leg of the konami cup in Pes4, I won the home game 1-0 and I was 0-1 up in the second leg...

Nothing beats the porno music in the match statistic screen from Iss pro 2, nothing!!!!

26 six pages about "Will Pes possibly be released sooner?" Sorry Peeps, but speculation won't get you the game any sooner. Might kill time though...

I've never understood why they can't add more national teams or at least blank spaces for us to make national teams. Ok Iceland sucks bigtime these last few years but they still manage decent results every now and then and I'm sure many peeps wouldn't mind having a go with them against a tough...

Whoa! Gudjohnsens stats have gone through the roof! Cool! Can anyone tell me if Heidar Helguson in Fulham looks anything like himself? Or Hermann Hreidarson in Charlton? They finally bothered to make Gudjohnsens face for Pes5 but thats because he was phenominally good last year so I'm not...

I would preorder Pes5 from Play but since I live in Iceland I fear it might actually be in shops here weeks before my order arrives. Play could hardly send the game early enough to arrive here near the release date, could they? Then again, Icelandic gameshops are retarded and always get Pes5...

I don't understand why Konami can't ad one african team and two asian teams so we can actually play a proper African/asian cup. I just don't get it, what's the hassle?

I think it's a bit early to be dissapointed about Pes5, it's still months away. Anyway, keep up the good work, guys, some class pointers there, the random injury thing is brilliant!

I was so sure the Handball had been comepletely thrown out. I play Pes4 alot and I have never seen handball given once. I have seen 2 offsides which didn't get called, I like it when refs make mistakes but these two were stupidly obvious. I'd prefer if it was to close to call and then there...

Yeah they should defo have something similar for europe, so we can pick any European country to play the wc qualifiers. for many years I have longed for Iceland in Pes but I gave up hope after we fell below 90 on the fifa list

He´s probably not playing anything, he's just sitting in front of the telly and that xbox is probably just an empty shell. or not. WHO CARES!

Ball is in play on this occasion but I have seen it cross the goalline itself completely, and no goal awarded. I checked a gazillion times, it was allt the way over the line. Not in this case though.

What's with the topic title? Why isn't it: Pes 4 - a glitch? You know, something that makes sense with what's written inside. That glitch is nowhere near as bad as Pes2 was (not that it was bad, it was just bad compared to the others)

Are you all who have probs sure you have a program to extract the rar-files? I downloaded one from rarlab.com and the videos work fine in my media player, although the bs player complains of codec errors. If you look at vid 2 you can tell the crowds are just the same as before. The jap...