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this dude is nuts...just talking shit, doesnt even say anything himself...if you think the spanish league sucks (im sure you think the premier is above and beyond anything) look at newly promoted numancia for example, they beat barca and scored 3 against madrid (2 of which were defensive fuckups...

as you can tell im a madrid fan, that my team, and i can tell you that the defense is bomb on paper but the shit they do to casillas is criminal...theres a reason why lower teams only try to force corners on us...for some reason the 4 sick players dont talk to eachother...its getting better but...

gk-casillas cb- ferdinand cb-cannavaro cb/lb-chivu rwb-ramos dmf- senna (he better be good in the game) cmf-stevie g lmf-ronaaaaaldo amf-sneijder ss- eto cf- nistelrooooy strange formation yes. but it flows like a chick on her period

I would hope the likes of diego, aguero, and pato have been improved...also senna should be a baller like he proved in the euro and further proves every weekend in yellow...im sure theres more players but this is what i can think of off the top of my head... oh an nihat too...

i know im gonna get a lot of grief for saying this but its shocking that a lot of you admittedly edit for multiple hours before playing the game

I dont know if its been talked about already (sorry in advance, dont jump all over me for it) but what about the training they had in WE8 (american) which if im right would have been pes4....anyways the training challenges were cool where you had to play a cross thru a bulls eye hovering above...

Shipping to states? Hey I saw this ad here and online...I wanted to know if shopto ships to the US? I am sure it wouldnt be free shipping but I would be down to do it to get the game a couple weeks earlier...also Ive seen that theres no region for the ps3 games, but since the option files are...

i was wonderin who you all have come across that develops to a very high level or develops quickly... ive seen that arizmendi is quite good actually sergio ramos after 2 seasons is insane and 82 at freekicks de rossi is good anywhere in midfield and develops well... van der vart after...