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MANY MOVES FROM SWISS PAGE Here is a link to a Swiss site in french translated by google and originaly posted by Zygalski: http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.pesge.com/gestes/gestes.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.pesge.com/%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG Yes! You got it...

THE BERGKAMP TURN If your back facing the goal, you would need to stop the ball first with R1 to avoid having the player turn around when you press R2. Then you do the drag back with only one click to the right using R2 (not twice as mentioned). And as the ball at the heel of the player you...

Wouldn't it be nice to have 1 thread with just the explanation of the moves and mayby footage to show it? Most of the threads discussing moves have 712634581 posts before they get it right. Now that's a lot to read through just to learn a piece of fancy footwork. This thread is ment to be...

Yeah how do yo do that? I have the same problem: Unregistering players from a team. Let's say that a player retires or transfers to a another team that is unavailable in PES4 and you want to delete this guy. How do you do that? If it is not possible, this should be high on the "things to...

Dunno if someone else has suggested this earlier as I haven't read the entire thread as this is not an issue on PS2 as of yet, but how about making a public list with the quitters?

This must be the only positive thing about PES4 for PS 2 is not online ;)

Firstly I must say I am amazed that you can make a game this good. I had a Commodore 64 (yes Yoda and I grew up together) and have played 8762374650276035692345 games on many fine machines like AMIGA, PC, Mac and later on PS1 and PS2. Now I only play 2 games PES4 and GTA and most of the time...

I am getting all the wizer :)

Thank you Mr. Pain for the qualified guess. It sounds plausible. There is a few other stats that have the same kind of description (I cannot remember which and cannot check right now as I am not home, sorry) does anyone have any clues as to what they do?

But there are a few poor descriptions Most of which are very descriptive, but how about Agility for instance? "Higher values improves the players agility". Which ofcourse is totally surprising. Can anyone help on the few stats that have indescriptive explainations? How they affect the...