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I said suposidly kid which just encase you dont know what that means is going by rumor's which you started. And that was a straight response to you who mentioned it was at 50% so its gona be awesome.. dont try and trip me up son it wont work...

please search through this forum and display once where i have mentioned % builds and how serious it can be praying that it will get better when they finish of some % of pes... ill say this one last time I look at pics/vids/ what konami actually says and i make my decision based on current...

no point in you posting that kid..didnt answer my post at all you know that 99% of all fifa online games are full of people who win 6,7 - 0 just scoring tap in goals...oh yea and scoring from halfway line... your right about the AI in pes however but on a higher difficulty level sorts it out...

ifa 09 is full of noobs who always hold A to tackle and pass the ball in the box across the keeper for a certian tap in goal....

exactly I mean i sold sami hypia to arsenal and i played them the next fixture and in one set of play i made a gerrard style pass with babel and torres got the ball he was clear 1 on 1 with the keeper.. so all i had to do was run with the ball a good 20 yards with torres no problem right? but...

http://pes2008editing.blogspot.com/ there is a teams list on there that konami have confirmed

could not have said it better myself....

I never mind pes AI I still enjoy playing pes 09 thats all that matters

yea tell me about it...kinda pissed off that martinez, gomez, and scotland have left.... this season will be quite hard

Swans in pes is a possibility mate....edit the free team slots ill be uploading some kits when it comes out

My money is on the ring girl

There are many issues with fifa but i can live with them but having like you said a 35 years old who was slow even in his peak...faster then torres, messi etc is too much... I will be buying both games also as they both offer diff things but if i had a gun to me head i would chose pes anyday...

Testify my brother... @ Tech - your talking about fifa 10 there which does look amazingly improved but if it still has that 1 issue that pisses me off where playing on pro all defenders are faster than worldclass forwards...im going to pass im afraid

yea I agree and im not saying oh its gona be awesome when they put the new stuff in....im just stating that i take what WNEB etc take with a pinch of salt...the video's i have seen so far are amazing the animations look brill when in dead ball situations.. for me it looks much more like the...

I only know the news from what goes on here from what i gather and read WNEB and PESfan are cocks (just my opinion) they are all over the place so i dont bother with there write ups..... i just go by konami and the video's... which look very impressive konami have done a massive overhaul of...

I just want civilized debates, im not sticking up for none of you just saying that being undermining doesnt help any situation.... It just really baffles me when people are saying better luck next year? like WTF its looking good like..

I wouldnt go that far mate fifa 09 is tolerable they have quite a few flaws that ruin the game...which i have mentioned before and even dide hard fifa fans cant answer because they know im right.. fifa 10 could be awesome while at the same time it could be rubbish we wont know....

will you stop with the blasting mate, he has mentioned many times he likes both games and yes he does wave towards fifa which is upto him.... He states his opinion you state your job done.... this fifa 09 is good/bad subject is getting well old very quick lets just concentrate on...

I maybe completely losing it but from what ive seen pes is looking back to its best...really engrossing gameplay... im looking forward to seeing new vids and pics etc...be awesome..

deal...but lets also hate drogba for his diving match wining eccentrics... i hate man u but i kno they are better than city