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Better crowds for sure. I play it on the PC and there is a lot of untapped gpu power to be unleashed.

Less scripting. I was playing the international cup last night on prof level. And it was a joke.

Which is a remarkable thing to see. As PES was best on the PS2 for years. The joypad was sublime. Maybe they have too many platforms to work on? As all games usually suffer when they cut corners getting games onto multi-formats to a set time for release.

Cheers. I'll have to look for Ole.

I am Man Utd. Should have said. Although the team I am building will be an attacking force. Going for a different set of players than previous games. In the past my ML teams have been made up of Dutch, Brazilian, Argetinian stars. Anyone got Denis Law before?

There is no doubt Fifa took their eye of the ball for a few years. But they have almost got a decent game. PES is struggling to get the game they are after. I think I might wait to see people reactions to both games before taking the plunge. I bought both last year. Fifa impressed then got...

Van Der Saar, Neville, Vidic, Evra, Ferdinand, Scholes, Nani, Carrick, Park Rooney, Henrik Larsson (young) Plus the following all young, Nedved, Ray Wilkins, Rivelino, Maldini Yorke (How could they put him down as a midfielder though!) Foster. Brown, Fletcher A few more additions in...

Anyone know if there is a download for PES2009 while using a widescreen monitor? The players look a little squashed.

What i really liked was the free kicks - however i disliked the fact that the kicker could not move until about 5 seconds after the free kick being taken when the ball hit the wall. ............................................................................ thats really retarded. I hate...

I have been playing PES09 for a while on the master league. I have only had a couple of problems with it. When the players are a bit retarded and don't make the right runs. And sometimes the scripts that allow the opposition to score.

CVG have given Fifa10 a mark of 9. They say the animations a still a pain as you pass the ball. And that it usually takes months to discover all the bugbears. Its quite promising for Fifa.

If they made it easier to edit players and teams. That would fix a lot of problems.

Welcome to PESG.

I think its hard to tell from a demo as limited as PES is in demo to see how good it will be in the long run. I hope they have a good base to refine later editions rather than starting all over. As long as the master league is good I'll be happy. The master league is miles better than...

Its a pity they couldn't get the real managers. Or your face on a body.

I have played a couple of games of the demo and its seems alright. The graphics are sharp. A lack of atmosphere due to no commentary. It'll be interesting to see the games reviews. Be the first time I have bought PC gamer in a while.

How hard would it be for them to have the correct players in the correct teams? The transfer window is shut.

I hope its a decent demo and you can play a whole game.

A game about football hooligans doesn't appeal to me. Give me Pro evo or football manager any day. If I want some violence I'll play COD.