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I don't recall saying I didn't like it, I was implying PES3 isn't exactly Joe-90.

The plot sounds like the film of "The Running Man", guy gets kidnapped/fake deathed/whatever, and forced to take part in a kill or be killed tv show, whilst trying to find out what is going on/who did this to him. Sound close?

If WE7 is slower than PES3 it must be snail-like.

PES3 Smackdown 5 FF10 GTA VC DoD For anyone who has fond memories of old games (I would have liked to include Barbarian, Gauntlet, SWOS and a bunch of others) my advice is resist temptation to get an emulator and relive the old days....you will swiftly find the games you loved years...

Yes, I'm overjoyed that it costs a lot of "credits" or whatever they are called, to buy a free agent, I love you konami. yeah right, bunch of lazy gits.

Dailly has false teeth? Are you sure you aren't confusing him with Craig Burley?

No handball penalties (tons of attacking-team handballs, both by me and CPU, in the penalty area), but I have had a lot of penalties, guess my version gets upset at dribbling in the area. :)

I get most joy from corners with an outswinging cross, aiming as far towards goal as I can and curling it away.

No real stinkers from PES3 yet excelt an Eidur Gudjohnson shot from close range missing an empty net but it was a tight angle. My worst was on PES2, a shot which hit the keeper was still looking like it was going in but I ran up and tried to really hammer it, so right on the goal line I try to...

No real backlash here, just a few comments. 1-Goalkeepers...they save some , they don'y, no big deal. 2-Animation...I remember thinking PES2 was "weird" after PES 1, now I'm used to PES3 I think it's alright. 3-Some players are freaks agreed, but a lot are better than before...

Your avatar being the perfect example...

Leaving aside the pathetic handball and advantage attempts, and lazy licencing I'd have to say transfers. Unless I'm doing something wrong, I can't get created players, or anyone else not already with a team, without paying a transfer fee.

You don't need a high post count to spot a dumbass.

I'm 6 games into my master league (3*) and I've won 1, lost 1 and drawn 4. I also have only scored 1 goal and only let 1 in. That's the league, in the cup I'm out first round. At home I drew 0-0 with Fulham, and away I got beaten 1-0. Sounds really exciting, no? Edit: I haven't bought any...

Anyone who used the phrase "post of the year" really needs to venture outside once in a while. All this thread really is is some guy saying he likes the game. Of course you do, as do we all for the most part, we are here aren't we?

I noticed as well that I lost a lot on "money" buying a free agent. I checked the manual which said transfer points are not required for free agents, so the next ones I tried to get I set transfer fee to 1 (wouldn't allow 0), but not one of them came, despite quite well improved wage offers. Yet...

There is an intense looking, bug-eyed baldy ref, but in true konami spirit I doubt his name is Collina. Nocilla perhaps.

My favourite is the chip, but not any old chip. I try to do it as early as possible, to give the keeper half a chance. The end result I aim for is getting the keeper to scramble back and dive for the ball just as it crosses the line. Make him suffer!

Defence is tough if you try to run up behind a CPU player and take the ball, they shield it well. You seem to have to leave some space between you and them until you are at least level. Failing that, try to guide them on a path away from where they want to go, then try to intercept their pass.

Why should we have to? It's yet another example of the laziness of konami.