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It has been a long time pal. :) Graphically it looks better yes. But the game at the core is the same. I agree it is better than last year. Konami have looked at last years criticisms and have taken them into account but thats it. People wanted a slower tempo, better editing tools...

I have with Ronaldo. You can't with Henry because his stats have gone awful. He really sucks now. I just feel the core game is the same. Animation, passing, A.I. Its just so last gen. It feels more restrictive then ever and in some ways more scripted too. The overall feel of the game seems...

I agree about the slow responsiveness of the menus, but also the fact that they are the exact same as last years, whereas PES has at least tried to make an effort. Too bad this effort is only showed on the menus. Oh I feel for you about the bugs. Try ringing them up.

The demos shit. So why should we care?

8.5 for a game that looks and feels(demo) like PES 2008? This may be the first time I won't buy a Konami football game.

Looks exactly like PES 2008. That is saying something.

Its not about sides pal, its about football.

Anyone think that the demo feels like a cheaply made football game?

Xbox? You lost me on your last sentence.....

Totally agree with you. Anyone find that if you start winning by more than 2 goals people just quit? I am really surprised at how good this game is. Its the closest thing to football out there. The PES 09 demo barely scratches it.

Was winning 3-0 online, the guy quits and messages me with "fuckin cheater" :rolleyes:

Anyone fancy making a team?

Too bad this is that game. Anyone else feel as if the series is becoming more and more scripted? Or at least feels like it?

It's to easy to score full stop. No matter the difficulty.

I personally didn't think it was that scary (PS3 demo) but it was very atmospheric and plays very well. I really enjoyed it.

Er no. Maybe it's your connection.

Doesn't surprise me. hehehe.

Comet were rumoured to be in some places pal.

Asda do not reserve.

I thought it was fun. The weapons and terrain stuff were definetly the high points. My only worry is the rest may be a bit too generic. Oh and whats with the Gears of War clothing?