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Honestly I would say this will blow fifa out of the water like I have said before fifa 10 looks ATM of the pics and news releases fifa 09 with a data update you may get through XBL..... I kno that could all change by the time o final release but IMO this pes has made such an improvement it...

Yea man just really impressed with the lighting and weather effects....at 50 or 80% complete there is still 50 or 20% room for improvement so hopfully it will be a heavy contender this year

Man tell you what is it raining or fog at anfield because that looked amazing the way you could see the weather inside the stadium contrasting the stands instead of just in your screen setting the mood...

TBH im quite slow when it comes to news i dont really go in depth to search for it...i only know whats going on when im on this forum in real time replies so.... but thanks for link mate

link to that video please pal?? aint seen it yet and dont know if its been posted on here yet

just drop it mate he is entitled to his opinion just like you are.... with the latest video suposidly at 50% build im getting a bit more excited over this game

^^ comitted arnt we lol......i constantly edit.... what i do, do how ever usually as a game comes to the end of its life is make Super nation teams... in 2009 i had England team in aston villa then spanish in athletico madrid also argintina's best in boca etc just adds a bit of spice ya know

Hope so mate kinda pissing me off now all this back and forth palava.... how ever if that's 50% complete then wow we "technically" are in for such an awesome game!

so a celtic win and ROI win :P

yea for me the movement has been a big issue the player do look human and in correct size to the pitch and ball etc...but shooting animations were dodgy and running seemed awkward.... but i dunno if its because i may have seen and herd less than you but im happy with movements... from what i...

who actually knows how deep 360 goes? there could be many implementations of such feature....all i care about is they gameplay is looking awesome imo.... and if i can do one full circle while looking realistic im happy

yea ill be on the edit mode for a good few hours doing all the kits from around the leagues.. then if anyone who i feel has wrong boots..and looks... then stats.... then the Mighty reds against the shitty blues!! ha ha

^^ im not saying you did son.... your not even important to grant a decent reply as i know now your manner is very low....going from past posts between you two thats all because everyone has a go at him when its not 100% his fault.....

right fair enough....your totally right as always i have never ever read a post from you where you swear or be insulting.......

^^ hope not i hope there is some loyalty involved instead of moving just for money *cough* man city *cough* lol

No im just fed up of people arguing on here over silly things.... he brings up valid points and ok at times very narrow minded on pes....but theres no need to be rude or entice a confrontation.... he will answer your Q if he can if not then so what?!?

it also doesnt help when you entice him into a battle....

I dont really take it into consideration about what people on IGN,Pesfan, gametrailers etc say because you make your own mind up you see pics vids etc and judge your self... i read them of course but take it with a pinch of salt.... im hoping the passion is back in pes this time around and...

this is starting to piss me off now Tech and that deluded fool chinaman are just here to pick at pro evo and basicly ride EA's goal post of love... konami have made a vast imporvement on last year and for that plus added content plus updated features thats the making of a very acceptable...

been posted like twice now dude sorry :( but awesome news eh...