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i know its really frustrating isnt it...i had the same thing, but decided to move clubs so i could be around some fresh faces...i recommend you doing the same thing if your getting angry loool!...i mean i was at portsmouth for some time and nothing was happening, no new players nor fresh talent...

foryoublue...welcome to forums btw :) firstly everyone is to their own opinion, including yours...secondly...i think mr.darkstar is trying to get across is the way it has improved and makes for a much better game to play!!...but i don't agree that the new pes is pes 2008 with new menu's...play...

in some cases i definately agree with shaun7... i do believe that in some cases PES does need to take advantage of the next gen consoles, but still is a brilliant game...i don't think licenses should be taken up as an argument against the game...yeah the kits might not be (fifa) perfect...but...

I totally agree with this statement made by Mr.Darkstar...not everything can be made perfect...like we all know...we'd want it to be! The amount of people who i know, who play fifa...say this and that about criticising a game that has "DRAMATICALLY" improved since last year...to me there are...