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They used to good. Pro evio 1 and 2 on the PS2 had great crowd effects. But as in life they like dumbing things down.

The noises coming out are good. Does anyone know what specs you will need for the pc version? Bearing in mind the gpu's in most pc's are far better than the ps3/xbox. I have a 8800gts 320mb. Which is quite old just now. What they are saying is they have worked on the gameplay seriously...

Have you seen the video for GT 5? It looks awesome. I might have to get a PS3 for that. I am looking forward to the next Call of duty game. I'd like fight night round 4 on the pc. But I don't think its going to happen.

Not being able to fully edit now that PES hasn't got licenses You would think they could make it easier to edit the teams on the pc platform. Football manager has grown as its easier to modify. In fact most games that on the pc that have done really well have catered for people who like to...

I'd be up for that. Reminds me a bit like fifa on the megadrive. Were you could run away from the ref. You could run for ages but he'd still catch you in the end.

How about some head injuries? Some blood. The players could be a bit dazed and wobbly.

Better ball physics. There is something not right about the ball.

how do find pes on the wii with different control system?

That games well cool. Its really fast paced. Do you have a mouse? As I found the touchpad too fiddly for the pace of the game. A bit boring just saying I am playing fm2009. But some extra information is that I have sold Carrick, Tevez, Vidic and Hargreaves. Failed in attempts to sign...

Still playing fm2009.

still fm2009. While watching the comedy channel.

Is really quite decent? I heard its got pretty cool sound effects. At the moment I am playing football manager 2009 on the laptop. On a saturday for petes sake! I should be in the pub or something!

I hope they have the correct squads. I don't want Ronaldo in the Utd team if he's signed for Madrid!

funny how the graphics have improved while the gameplay has went downhill.

I have no problems with the graphics at present. Maybe a bit of polish. They could improve the crowd a bit. The commentary could be tweaked. They could get rid of this bug bear I have. When you do a sliding tackle another player does the same sliding tackle?! If they could just sort out...

Can Seabass and Konami not communicate with the fans of Pes? Like how fans of football manager has helped develop that series of games. the fans of the game should have more say in the game. Although I don't think Seabass was happy with the last release. i enjoyed Pes on the PS2. But felt...

Another thing that has disappointed me of recent editions of pes. Is the crowd sound effects. In the past we had the dutch with their brass bands. the south americans with their samba beat. I can't remember the rest. But the fans used to get excited at important points in the game.

I hope they work on the gameplay. Its been the thing missing from recent editions of pes. In my opinion anyway.

Thats what I thought! My dreams are shattered yet again. I guess it will always suck until we get super fast broadband speeds that are consistent. The amout of processing must be incredible for 22 men on the pitch at one one time.

I dont care for the strips and licences. just give us a decent editor that people can mod to their hearts content. just improve the online mode please!