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Muzza I've seen your posts around, always very PRO-PES, which isn't a bad thing, it seems loyal, but have a look at this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ispqyM5jvOA It's the same terrible gameplay of last years, and the year before. It angers me that Konami keep producing the same game...

It is as good as playing an old version of PES on the PS2. PES for current gen consoles has been a massive let down, FIFA has become stronger each year whereas PES has remained at the same mediocre level.

I disagree completely, the gameplay of FIFA 09 was good, FIFA 10 seems even better. And thats a good thing compared to PES's now very samey gameplay. Nothing has changed since the first current (next) gen PES was created. Konami are very lazy and don't show that they've spent enough time and...

Nice goal to be fair, scored one similar with Mario Gomez last night. It IS like older versions of PES in that I am excited for the release of the full and proper game, have never been with FIFA games before but the demo plays so well.

Really enjoyed Marvel vs Capcom but cannot believe it was number 1 ahead of Shenmue.

Reina might be in the top 5 but nowhere near the best keeper in the Premiership.

That is strange. But yeah, I have CB's up for all the corners I have had. The long throw ins look much better too.

Where are these new animations? That surely can't be PES 2010, it looks completely identical to 2009. It's such a shame that PES has become so inferior to FIFA, back in the days of PES 4 I never thought I'd see the day. Konami got lazy and now EA are miles ahead of them.

It is mate. John Terry and Daniel Van Buyten have both scored from corners for me.

Agreed. Countless times in the demo I won the ball but took the man clean out. Play on. Brilliant.

I must say, however much this is about opinions, there are a lot of die hard PES fans who are saying that the FIFA 10 demo is like playing FIFA 09. Having played PES for goodness knows how many years that PES 2008, 2009 and it appears 2010 all look identical, 08 and 09 certainly played that way...

Well having read some very mixed reviews here's where I am with it after playing maybe 9 or 10 games... I enjoyed it immensely, I thought it was easily enough of an improvement on 09 to warrant paying £45 for. The movement impressed me massively, when you have a player take posession of the...

If that's all you look for in a football game you're a deluded individual sir. And the faces in FIFA look just as realistic to be fair, if not more so as the PES faces generally look like a photo taped onto a head.

Sometimes I think I'm the only member of this forum who has a job.

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From a personal point of view, yes, I have lost faith in Konami, but that was helped by FIFA 09 which I think is a brilliantly playable game, one of the top 5 games of all time I have experienced even. Konami used to have a winning formula, but while EA listened to their punters on what would...

I wouldn't hold your breath mate. It's Konami.

Adriano to be honest, although he was unfairly untouchable in recent versions which didn't capture his real life shitness.