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You can play back ups, imports, Arcade ROMs, PS one games, N64 games, Sega Mega Drive, SNES, GBA, and soon PS2 games besides xbox games on X-box. Chip development together with HDD is ENORMOUS for X-box. A lot bigger than PS2. And what is more important, it's a lot more stable and easier to chip...

Pardon :), do not forget us Australians and New Zealanders to include in PAL region. There's big market here you know, not just in Europe :)

Right, and how come you do not think it is a real kick in the teeth to other console owners that they DO NOT have PES/WE at all??? What is wrong with you??? Has Sony payed you to be so loyal to them??? What's the deal, I don't get it??? I don't understand that somebody like you and many...

Sorry Mate, just saw your post. I will post scans, no worries. :) Will do that in next few days. Just to add one more thing. I do not trust Konami as well, I don't know whether people remember but Konami had announced for PES3 and WE7 having online option for downloading updates etc... Was...

That's right Mate. I am sceptical as well, even though I was the one to read it from the magazines. The only thing that keeps me hoping is the fact that Microsoft has confirmed the deal with Konami this month in regard to PES 4 being online. Konami apparently didn't want online feature for PES 4...

Well that's a thing, Magazines have exclusive right to get information directly from game makers earlier than their press conferences. Konami has officialy confirmed to Official Xbox Magasine that PES on X-box WILL be LIVE. It's in latest August '04 issue.

True, but who knows... Maybe we might get an excellent footy game, totally different from WE/PES, just to break the monotony of playing same game over and over :)

Finally somebody who appriciate who the genius is. Dino Dini made soccer games while Kamasutke still pissed in his nappies. He made Kick Off 1, 2 and above many others GOAL! And if you haven't played that, don't call yourself a soccer fan...

Pro Evolution Soccer 4 PAL = Winning Eleven 8 International in USA on NTSC system. It's already scheduled for beggining of 2005, so no need for pipps, chips and videoclips (in short, mod chips) :) And I still disagree that PS2 controller is better than xbox. I tried PES3 on PC with s controller...

If you cannot play ANY disks, originals in particular, then your console might have died. But if it's only a problem with imports and backups, maybe one of the wires hasn't been soldiered properly so it's loose now. Take it back, they'll fix it. I wouldn't recommend you a slide card, very bad...

God bless you "little" man :))) You are the best Zy!!! Thanks heaps.

It's not about getting one match a month or not, it's freaking laaaaaag that PS2 servers have, which makes it impossible to play online, even once a month... Xbox version so far is confirmed for LIVE so hopefully it will be...

That's exactly why WE8 is not online on PS2!!! And reason why it is not going to be online for PC is because Microsoft has their own servers and LIVE works beautiful. They own every single xbox, but they do not own every single PC on the market...

Mr Zyg, I hope that your implication is NOT "satisfy yourself by reducing the atmosphere in the game so you can play it as it was supposed to be played", because it is pathetic to do this, especially with WE. Reminds me when I didn't have state of the art PC and 3D card, so I used to reduce game...

Mate no offense, but you have no idea what you're talking about. Especially with the first reason. Do NTSC DVD movies play different on your TV??? I don't think so... Laser revamp is only about RW+- disks, nothing spectacular that would affect playing games. (By the way, they are ment for...

Both games are scheduled for x-box as well, so what's the fuss all about??? I played PES3 on PC with s controller and it is totally OK. It takes a bit to get used to it but after few matches it's awesome :)

There's slowdown on original disk. Just received the disk this morning, and there is a slowdown on corner kick, entry scene and whenever there are lots of players on the screen including ref. Also noticed slowdowns after some goalkicks and freekicks. It is not a stutter like in PES3, but a...

Yes Mike, it is Australian one. It is the issue 30 August 2004, has a chick from NFS Underground2 on the cover and new onfo about Xbox2. There is ninja gaiden demo and few others. I'm sure you can recognise it when you see it. Good news indeed. Cheers Mates.

Sorry for posting so late, I was away. I will post the exact issue of official XBOX magasine this afternoon. I know that it is the one with Ninja Gaiden demo and Chronicles of Riddick video on the disk. It says on first few pages, something like this:"It has been finally confirmed with both...

Alright, I had enough of this debate, play whatever you like on whatever system you like. Sony was everything but innovative when they started using CD's, there have been three other gaming consoles 32bit ones used before, but again, I ain't going to argue about anything since it's pointless...