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lol, you should check out what everyone is saying over at the FIFA forums. Absolutely sh*ting their pants and calling for the reviewers death haha. http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/340683-psm-reviews-fifa-09-a.html Anyone have the PES review?

Nice video. Looking forward to getting my hands on the game.

That is basically exactly what I would like implemented. I loved the old gameplay, but there are a shitload of things that can be implemented to give it the depth it deserves and needs, especially for next gen.

I had my reasons for buying a PS3. I just had high hopes for improvements in NEXT GEN games but I havent really seen it in football games yet. And yes, I know it has only been one year, but either FIFA or Konami should try come up with innovative ideas to suit the next gen.

Well I didn't spend $700 on a next gen console to play old gen Pro evolution.

I know you said you liked the ideas, but there is no reason why they can't implement them. The technology is there for them, and if they really want to make people stand up and take notice they need to implement it.

Wouldnt it just be like the comp they already have in ML, just under the name of "UEFA Champions League"?

I actually think this years cover looks filth. lol. In my opinion it looks as if it is an attempt from a trainee graphic designer for them, and thats a compliment. Looks very amateur compared to some of the great covers of other games. PES 3 is my favourite.

Well, you do need to read the title of the thread. "How can next gen consoles improve the ML mode?" In other words, how far and how in depth can the master league go. We are just saying things which we believe would add depth to the game, and something different and unique. Don't be...

Yeah, great ideas. Nice idea Hitokiri, being able to create a manager would be great. Though, for the lazy ones, an ability to pick from a bunch of pre-made managers would also be needed. Then, this could be tied into the "Press Room", as you sit with your captain answering questions...

Yeah, I was thinking about this a while back. It would be great. Almost like the manager games that are out. Would be pretty interesting to have it though. FIFA has a very basic thing like this, once every few games you get asked a question relating to the season/players and how you...

Looks f*cking great. I honestly thought the second and third stadium pictures were real photo's. Im seriously split between this and FIFA. Faces looks pretty good now I can see them close up. Good stuff.

It's alright, us Aussies get the 2010 edition. haha.

Fuk off it's coming out December 31st in Australia... thats fkin homo.

Is this kid serious?

Well we agree to disagree. They look good in PES 09 but not AS good as I believe they could be. My opinion anyway.

You would hope it is.

I posted 3 in game shots from FIFA and 3 in game shots from PES. I do agree with what your saying, but isn't that the same in PES, they focus on making good players look good as they do in FIFA. PES models are much better than FIFA, but the overall realism of graphics in PES looks second...

Well I have played both, PES definitely has the better ball physics. Shots in PES are unpredictable, which is just like real life. Although you might think your going to ping it into the top right hand corner, that doesn't always happen. This is true in PES because its realistic and they take a...

Added new videos. Some FIFA ones and PES ones. Im sure everyone has seen the PES one.