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It's like PES5 in gameplay, I love it. Nothing like 2008 really, that game was far to easy.

The servers are still undergoing pre-release tests, the game isnt officially out until tomorrow.

You judged the entire game on 10 minutes? Have you ever actually played a PES game in your life?!

Nope. Blame Microsoft.

I'll just pitch in about the BAL bug. My mate 'acquired' the game last night, and his crashes, whereas my room mate got a legit copy today from the local store and there has been no such crash...

A rather strange way of proving its you. Sorry, I'm just a skeptic.

It's either a problem with the download, in which case Friday will be fine, or a problem with your PS3, in which case Friday may be affected.

Don't you get an auto 3-0 win if people quit on PES? At least that was what it was on 4,5 and 6. They'd better not have changed that. I didnt play last years online so correct me if I'm wrong. Sorry bit off the topic.

You forgot the peice of paper to show its really your pic. That could be anyone..

Compared to other Pro Evo's it was a disaster. You could pick up the ball with any player and basically run the length of the pitch. Players stamina was rubbish, meaning you had to rest top players every 2 matches. It was so easy to smash shots in from anywhere, or simply run down the wing, pull...

They have mucked up a bit on the modelling, but they look fine on long sleeve keepers. It's the short sleeve ones which look like they are trimming a rose bush..

Why not just get the demo expander? I have the half lengths set at 10 minutes, I often lose or draw with the AI on Top Player. I have to get my tactics set up to mark players, otherwise they pass me off the field.

Thats because the shooting is harder, no longer can you simply blast the ball from anywhere. You have to set up the correct body position. Try using R2 to slow the ball down, pass a player, and strike when parallel to the goal, goes like a rocket.

On the strength of the demo, I actually bought FIFA this year. Huge mistake it turns out. I play the PES demo far more than FIFA, simply becuase I cant do with many of the bugs and flaws it has. For example, the ball going actually through the crossbar, static players at corners, the dribbling...