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Pes had good fundamentals but failed to show it with pes 2008 - pes 2013. The best pes was 2011 in recent years for me because it had he best balance between attack and defence. So in the end, both pes and fifa appeared bad in the eyes of a football fan because fifa has a good shine but no real...

Some people who have played an advanced version of the code have said that the commentary is better but not by much. Honestly, as tiring and annoying as commentary can get in pes (or in fifa but more in pes), I don't really pay much attention to it unless the gameplay bothers me.

I much prefer the icy ground rather than pes 13 animations then. :) At least from afar and up close (not judging the ground and foot planting), they look way more realistic which means less stumbling, more fluid animations and TRANSITIONS as well as more freedom with the analogue since now the...

If there's one thing I noticed is that Pes 14 does have alot of attention to little details. The animations above else are way better than before finally and the physicality looks like physicality if this makes sense. I just hope the gameplay is properly balanced or at least to an enjoyable...

Yes, the PC version of Dark Souls wasn't really that good of a port. But the console version was superb. True, Skyrim wasn't a choice heavy game. But then again, the amount of freedom that skyrim offers is on a different level. You have to understand that to make every action have a reaction...

I know this is highly off topic but I really disagree. You have to keep in kind that back in 1999-2000, the gaming industry was nowhere near as big and much fewer games came out. So the great games were way easier to find. If you look hard enough, there are superb games all around you. You just...

This is true, however the games have to get the basics right first and then be able to add to it because in my eyes, both pes and fifa missed the good solid and fun gameplay experience. And no effects or add ons made me want to go back and play them again. :) So I ask only for good gameplay...

Although I cannot deny this, you cannot really generalize like this ;) I can mention some games that were finished and had a great gameplay experience Dark Souls The Witcher 2 Kingdoms of Amalur Driver San Francisco The Forza series (even though they do release alot of downloads)...

Problem is, WHEN was the last time we had a properly finished product from football games? They had all the nice finishing, but fundamentally, the thing that mattered, the gameplay was lost, thus ending up in the same spot as we are in now with this argument. You still pay $60 for it, even if...

Oh I understand, I really do and I said myself that it's a bad thing on the whole. But at this point in time, I'd give every feature out just to have good gameplay that'll have me playing for a year at least. :)

No. What is expected from a football game is a REALISTIC based match against the AI where tactics and the right combination of players wins the match. And believe it or not, neither pes nor fifa has achieved this in the recent years. So why bother with weather effects when the core gameplay is...

I would rather have an unfinished product with good enjoyable gameplay that I will play rather than a finished product with crappy gameplay that I will never play again though. That's my bottom line

Soil underneath the grass. Maybe it was raining before the match and now the pitch a a bit muddier. It does happen in reality ;)

Ofcourse it's a bad thing. But as I said. Will it really matter in the long run? I ask myself this because it's been over 2 years since I last enjoyed a good football game and for a bare minimum I ask only for good gameplay because it's the gameplay that keeps me playing. A game can have all...

And BEFORE making any decisions read something to think about. I'll just re quote myself. "What's hilarious is people stop playing the games regardless of rain, snow and stadiums not making it into the game. Why? Because they don't matter in the grand scale of things. Yes, even I was...

What's hilarious is people stop playing the games regardless of rain, snow and stadiums not making it into the game. Why? Because they don't matter in the grand scale of things. Yes, even I was disappointed, but TBH I stopped playing pes 12 and 13 because of some deep issues I had with the...

Let me make this clear. I am not happy about no rain. But at this point in time do I really care about rain? No. After 2 years of not playing football games (last I enjoyed was pes 2011 and before that, fifa 09 and 10), I think that it would be stupid to care about add ons and not care about the...

Yes, I noticed that unfortunately. There seems to be some sort of input delay before the shot animation which makes it odd. I hope they fix it or at least improve it. But overall, the animations are still way better and fluid than before. It's definitely a big up in that department.

^The problem is not speed. The speed is spot on. The players of today are indeed faster than those of the past. The real problem here is the stamina management. There needs to be a properly implemented short term stamina system or should I say "Burst" energy separate from the normal 90 min...

Hello all. I just wanted to say something. Even though I was gone, I was still here in a way. Just absent from posting. Anyway, about Pes 14. Well, to say the least, this is the first year that Konami really are making a noise especially amongst fans of the series. So that's a start...