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You know what they say though mate, if it smells like shit and it tastes like shit, then it must be shit. So people like myself (who are actually traumatized by how bad the last 2 games were) need to be re-convinced the game is back to it's best and so far there's nothing but a bunch of...

Not exactly Willy Wonka's chocolate factory but hey....

If PES gets back to anything like it used to be come PES2010 then it's an easy choice and you're in for a real treat if you buy PES, however on the other hand it doesn't return to it's former glory I would opt for buying none of them.

I like, she's a winner.

Credit where credit is due, big improvement, especially in Alonso who has always looked shite. Other players that looked shite were RVP and Fab, any Arsenal screens doing the rounds?

All fair points mate, I just want to see the game get justice to it's legacy, that is all. Just for the record let it be known that I'm one of the good guys here, not some undercover Fifa fan boy getting in some cheap kicks while the game is down. ;)

But what if the game played a big part in your life like I know it did mine when it was in it's prime? (Don't take that literally now) You also fail to address the fact that PES was the only playable Football game knocking about for years and now that it's lost it's magic we're left with a big...

So lets get this right here, we go out and get stung for over 100 bucks on 2 incomplete titles and we're not supposed to get fired up when we're giving feedback? Gimme a break... we're doing them a favor here, they're the ones trying to make a killing off selling us muck for the last couple of...

yes.

D2 fella, from the good old days when PES was enjoyable.

Here's a great idea for anyone from Konami that might be reading this thread!!! If you really want your game fixed and back to it's full glory and you're really serious about it, then email or PM me and I'll instruct you on what needs to be done. That is all.

!00% behind this and also bring back the old side shimmy.

The big problem is that the players turn like buses, sharper and shorter animations are needed in general in order to get back that crisp feeling the game used to have. The also need to redo all the player models from scratch in oder to lose the ogre image.

Every time a side completes over 10 passes the crowd start to Ole or get fired up depending on the home team. Aswell if a player gets booked for a nasty challenge the crowd boo him our get on his back. Best idea ever I know.

Yeah I done a thread on the GKs the other day. Worst goalkeepers ever like.

Killing the sound of the ball completely is just not the right way about it, instead why not just make it sound like an actual football rather than someone beating a mat with a golf club. :)

Just finished up using Iron Mike against Ali there and I have to admit it, that was the biggest pile of wank I ever put down in my entire life. This game is complete rubbish and nothing like they're building it up to be. I swear, after seeing the ads on the tele I was at least expecting it to be...

Yes, that is exactly what I'm talking about and regards saying it politely? Just look where that has gotten us, the game is a shambles. :)

Hot Fuzz? I haven't a clue what you're talking about fella but rep for you for the rant. :laugh:

Jog on junior. ;)