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This is all good in theory lads but you just know they'll make a balls up of it.

Good shout, a lot more common sense needed with this and defiantly a new approach in general.

100% agree with that mate, it'd be something else, god knows how badly the game needs it right now though.

Nice one gents I'll have a look now and weigh up my options.

In a nutshell gents is this game worth playing or not? I'm mad to get stuck into a manager game but I'm really not sure and having been keeping upto date with what to avoid. Or What should I play?

I think we might see chuck one more time if we're lucky, it's true what they say about getting KO'd too many times, it does take it's toll. Who'd like to see chuck V Randy one more time in a legend match? :w00t

Cool me now understands, guess I'll wait for some feedback so first before committing.

I can see this game getting ultra serious online so I think I'll be signing up xbox live for it in the long term. At the minute I'm still running off the free trial you get with the yoke when you buy it. Got the Box Xmas and virtually didn't turn it on upto now and activated the account to...

I've the ground game off to perfection now but it took a while, self and minof really got to grips with it last night, this game has loads in it but I'd say I've put down about 20-30 hours of play now already it's just that good. With the exception of mariokart I can honestly say that I...

Update: I am now at the level where I can destroy Chuck in the stand up game on expert level, in fact I can murder the cunt in the 1st round easy. Now does it feel good? You bet your ass it does, god help you lot when I Machida the face of you online. :P

Fantastic news jMz I'm delighted for ye. You getting much sleep?, I always imagined one twin waking up the other when it's hungry. How does that work out in the real world?

Is there a complete list of Vets knocking about? Could be a good opportunity to give out some harmless insults.

Fucks sake man get on it.

I'd like to see a completely different game, period.

They need to seriously work on them replays, some of them are laughable compared to the in game knockout which never lets you down thank God. Anybody get a full list of the fighter ratings yet?

I haven't the strength to go into what PES needs to do to make this title credible again. I was a massive fan of this game like the most of you but it's like taking back a girlfriend who keeps cheating on you. The 1st time you might say ok, you did wrong, we can work on it and make things...

Well fellahs almost a week into it now how are we liking the demo, still playing?

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The Judo throws should be some craic. I wonder if they'll clean up the cuts bug where the fighters look fine the the cornor cut scenes despite taking a bounding during the round?( I imagine they'll have to :/ ) And one more thing.... Someone mentioned hitting the ref yesterady and I thought...

Can I have my old red bar back instead of the Elite one?