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So you want us to stop having an opinion and just get on with what they throw at us? PES2008 was a disaster by no stretch of the imagination, PES2009 is just an updated version of that game. Why didn't they just fix the way the players get around the pitch. It's comical how unresponsive they...

I've had a few players sent off now without pressing the slide button, one of the lads said it's a new feature.

If you look at the poll results in the Demo feed back thread you'll notice that about half the people still aren't happy with it or are unconvinced. This is the general attitude I'm seeing all over the internet. Does the console version play exactly the same as the PC version?

Rather than the players been fat I think it's just the model of the shorts, they are absolutely scandalous.

Dude, I feel your pain and frustration, trust me.

This game does not play like PES5, where the hell did that notion come from? I've just canceled my order from Play.com after reading that comment, I'm washing my hands of this game just to show how grateful I am. :)

This updated version of 2008 is far from great mate, lets try keep things in perspective here. End of the day everybody wants to love PES again but some of these comments are very misleading on the poor lads that got devastated in the last version.

That's it fella let it out.

But what about the good folk out there that didn't want a different game?, all we wanted was some good updates and a few fancy frills around the edges. Remodeling all the players and changing all the game physics was a bad move that went terribly wrong if I'm to be perfectly honest. PES2008 was...

Just get a usb PS2 pad adapter for your PC and off you go.

The move from PES6 up has been detrimental, period.

A lot of the goals I'm seeing are rebounds too, I don't mind the point blank stops (that can be expected) but those shots you drill in from the side of the box are still causing havoc. Did I hear there was a patch brought out at somestage in PES2008 that improved them? (I boycotted that...

I see, so what you're saying is you no longer have to press the slide tackle button in order to preform a sliding tackle? Makes perfect sense, good job Seabass.

I've had players slide in for the ball, clatter the man and get sent off without pressing the button now on numerous occasions. The fuck is this all about?

I had a good session of the PES2009 demo with a mate last night and was keeping my judgment reserved upto now because I didn't think it was fair to comment from just playing against the CPU. After the session I was pretty happy with the outcome, there was no major goalkeeper errors and a lot of...

Ok from my own personal experience the goalkeepers are dropping everything and conceding really soft goals. Now I'm not saying that I'm 100% on this issue so I'd really like a general chat with people that have played a lot of 2008(Game I abandoned) and can comment as to if the GK's are better...

I'm more concerned with the punctured ball sound effect Seabase has fallen in love with.

After playing around 7-8 games now I'm not sure lads, sorry. I want to love this game again trust me. I don't know if I can do PES6 for another year.

I turned off the video option in the settings and it seemed to fix the problem I was having a while ago. First impressions is I don't hate it and the menu isn't as bad as I was expecting, they've also added the option for players to go up on set pieces which is nice, the rest of the team...

I've just gotten the demo else where and played it once, right off I was getting shit with the frame rate on cut scenes and freekicks so I'm off to lower some setting to see if that helps. The game played fine apart from that but at this point in time I couldn't make any harsh judgments, I need...