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I'm sorry Thori, but you can't judge a game based on screenshots.

"First demo coming in the early summer". Yay.

Too early to say yet, every year we're teased with a minute of "improvements" can't judge till I've actually experienced it myself. If you look at the Neymar goal, awful, awful keeping still. But, hopefully it plays well.

You've not dreamt it. It was another rumour that was added to the Wikipedia page and claimed as official. I remember in 2010, there was a rumour that of all teams Birmingham City would be licensed, but again it was a dreamt up rumour that people went with.

Added Ronaldinho to the list after his public fall out with Flamengo.

I recollect a thread of this nature from last year, and as no PES 2013 forum is open yet thought that maybe this was the most suitable. I'll start. Phil Jones definitely does due to his key features for United and England this year. Also maybe Wojciech Szczesny as he is one the Premier League's...

This. I see that PES has flaws, but you can't perfect a football game. It's a bit ugly at times, but like any real football team you can't stop coming back for more.

Matt, mine is lacking to be honest. If you send me yours, I will happily use my free time off of school to do the emblems :)

I believe it's around 100 (GP) needed to unlock, so either 10 offline games of any type or alternatively 2 on line which both merit 50!

The Libetadores teams that are on the new DLC will be the ones present on the release version of PES 2013.

1) Yes it's an unlock able from the PES store. 2) Yes go to "next match", view scores. 3) Not too sure what you mean, but believe if you go to calender you can sim to the date?

If it offers what I lacked in PES 2012, better passing, better shooting and no more undependable through balls it's a definite. It sounds so promising this year, let's hope for another 2 demos!

Anyone have any suggestions for hair/face of Phil Jones?

Done. Anyone have any more before I go off for a bit?

I will take all suggestions on board! All I ask that is if I maintain the list, can you please post the player along with club and reason they won't be in, simple retirement or released.

It's not just for faces and such, but to have easy accurate stats and such

Pretty sure Carlos and Ronaldo will be there due to Corinthians being in this years Libetadores semi-finals.

I remember a successful thread last year where everyone compiled a list of players who would be leaving PES next year. With PES 2013 on the horizon and the possibility of learning the teams rather soon I thought it would be wise to help many OF editors by having a list ready. Any players that...

Exactly, In my opinion money should be available to use on creating your own boot brand, new flash cars etc, and maybe you could invest it into your club for them to sign specific players?

LA, NY, Toronto then for me I'd create Seattle, Houston or maybe Portland Timbers? but then there's DC... Too much choice!