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I usually try and get to side the attacker and this stops the the attacker holdin you off, then jus as u get inline with him wait till the ball jus about to touch his feet again then press :circle: and slide him from the side that usually does it for me, runnin directly behind the attacker...

Did you play with the original master league players or did you start with the club players Personally i think when you start with club players you loose the master league effect, But until you buy your first decent player master league with the original players is soo hard

Im not ordering my xbox version from their then

If they were clever they'd release the game early, but when the catch the original person bill gates gonna sue their ass

MGS is not an RPG, Final Fantasy's are the classic example of an RPG's

The biggest surprise was that online was on xbox,

Well when some one posted the back of the xbox cover it didn't say custom soundtracks i think

And that people is the real reason why pro 4 is not ONLINE for PS2

Im think they'll probably release a downloadable patch for online play on the PC

^ True

Times are changin its the 21st century update

^ Don't your parents get bored of playin football games with you

Sacasm over the internet :rolleyes: Incase you didn't realise their is a world outside windows

^ i made it easier for you to read How much fun can you have on PES4 with your limited amount of social interaction

Your about 1 page to late RETARD ( friends get predictable jus like R2-D2 ) Plus james you can get a xbox converter to use your ps2 pad on the xbox and playing against your friends is all gud but when you wanna test ya skills against real evo players like the ones on this board then its all...

hasn't champ always been online ??????????????

i think it will basically come down to which style you like most, fifa or pro all this review says it their aren't goin to be that many converts from pro to fifa or vice versa

graphics quality is down when playin online, dunno about offline. someone around here has it on xbox though do a search and find the thread

can't wait till it hits the xbox