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Just to confirm, yes, wenb at 10.

yep, at 10 am edit: maybe even on the front page here actually

wow, I've been away for 3 weeks and there's so much to catch up on!

hmm. Yeah seems a shame. I am the same as Dundons here in that I don't think I'd have bothered if it wasn't advertised as lifetime membership...

English translation on WENB: http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes-2010-developer-video-in-english/

May just be my postman... I never have though. It's just waiting on the floor with the rest of the mail when I get home...

I've never had to sign :/

I've ordered PES 2008, and 2009 from Shopto and recieved 08 a day early and 09 on the day I believe. Does depend on where you live I suppose.

Anyone noticed that the nets are looking better? Much more realistic... Hopefully that's one of the minor details that they've fixed.

what's the source of this info?

You got my hopes up. :(

I'm not sure I believe that. I don't believe Konami would implement them in the game if they had been denied the rights to include them. Yeah, well they kinda sound negative about it, but every time something negative is said, they always mention that the game was only 50% complete. I'm not...

I prefer the winning one to be honest. Much more PES.

Having bought PSM3, and read the artcile, they seem to be a bit harsh on Konami for making a slower paced more difficult game...... Is it me or is this the core of the PES we used to know and love?? They said that they have done away with the arcadish style, and that seemed to be presented as a...

But then there's the whole debate of realism vs fun.

In my opinion!

For better or worse though? Neither PES or FIFA have been fun to play since PES 6. Actual fun. None of them have me craving to play, to go back to. PES 6 STILL does, after nearly 4 years. They need to take a step back to move forwards. If what you want is this new direction of football games...

I remember reading that it took play testers 3 games to score - this reminds me of the old school PES. Took a few games to get used to. Could be an indication of it being more difficult than 08-09

The number of years you play PES doesn't make your opinion any more/less valid. And let's not forget their ISS pk system. Not sure why they ever got rid of that really? But there must be a reason. Either way it doesn't matter. Be interesting to see what they use in 2010.

Bit far? I don't know if you've noticed, but this is a Pro Evolution Soccer fan site. Now as far as I can see you have never actually said anything remotely positive about PES. All you do is slate people based on your opinions. I'm not defending PES here, we all know it's not been great for a...