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Ah, I should be around on one of the nights so that jolly ol' saint Nicolas can depress you with a 1-0 thrashing.

Aye, I'll be there shortly... Mat will you update the first post with the table/results?

Rather short-sighted... especially considering he's interested mainly in PES.

The new 40GB PS3 sounds a better bet as the pad is a much better feel for PES, especially if you liked the Dualshock.

I'm not saying that I can't, though in a laggy game it becomes far more difficult. Defending against the cut-back is rather simple but it doesn't stop it from being a very cheap tactic.

For those defending the 'cut-back' goal, the AI is defective it should not occur that frequently and players set up their tactics specifically to exploit that defect. It's very poor form and would be considered cheating in most online games.

If Zygalski condemns the game I might be worried.

The Xbox 360 can go to 1080i the PS3 can go to 1080p and also transmit 1080i. The letter is reference to the different type of scanning progressive where the screen is built up in one pass, or interlaced where the even rows are shown in the first pass and a second pass does the odd rows. I...

Bollocks to it, the mighty Bolton will bring this one home.

Xbox 360 does not output 1080p and does it even have a HDMI output?

It's probably to do with Rooney being as good if not better, Ronaldo is a shocking free-kick taker, he will hit it at the wall with force and little else. I feel 78 is fair, if not a little generous when you consider the free-kick accuracy of some far better takers.

Do any of you people think that PES 2008 will have a signifcantly reduced editting mode on the PS2? It won't. Next-gen consoles have never had an extensive edit mode, so they're not technically 'taking it away', when you make advancements in graphics, animation and physics it becomes...

Night, Summer, Fine best conditions to promote attractive football I find. I have a shortlist of teams... I just can't decide.

The latter, as I've only encountered one sad cunt that does the former! ;)

The higher quality graphics will make the edit mode more difficult to produce, this in turn causes the options to be reduced. Once the next-gen games are settled the options will return, then again with those people creating option files and the new ease of transferring data from a PC to a...

Yes, a goal is a goal in real football and in PES, however it reduces the game to a rather low point and cheapens the worth of a goal.

Me neither, though I think it might be a rather moot point as I dobut anyone will select them.

They shouldn't be if Madrid aren't, feel free. The AI is dreadful in regards to cut backs, it's more a comment aimed at those people who may join. They inhabit online servers and continually attempt to exploit the terrible AI in that area.

I still can't decide on my team just yet, but can I clarify will we be setting the condition to normal? I think we should personally.

Well it would make mildly superior considering the following: - PES was designed around the Dualshock style and the D-Pad is the most accuracte device for player movement. - The D-Pad on the 360 pad is beyond diabolical, making PES virtually unplayable. I'm not joking when I say I...