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they can make all the improvements they want, if we are still stuck at 4 teams in master league they can shove it up their ass. Also, hopefully Konami changed some of the potential stars in ML to other names or players. If my team is going to consist of Kaiser and co. for another year I'm...

The bit of gameplay shown looks really a big step up from fifa09 and looks very promising! I can't wait!

I couldn't have said it better! All this talk about 50% build, though not the same situation, I couldn't help but think back at last year when everyone was dissapointed with the demo and everyone said it's not the final build just to find it basically was the final build. I can't...

Just readin Dougie Doughnut's report, I'm very dissapointed...especially him saying that most of the issues is still in the game...8-directional movement...sigh Seems the only thing us PES fans will have to rave about is graphics...seems fifa will be the game to play this year. Graphics...

Just saw the latest movie on winningelevenblog featuring some gameplay...seems very fluid but way too fast IMHO. And don't give me the crap it's only 50% done, that is what everyone told us last year and look what happened. I love the PES series, but I have grown frustrated that the game is...

correct, and that is their biggest problem at the moment. When a player is so important at the club that he influences the administration, transfers etc. you know you have a problem. NO player is supposed to play such a prominent role in a club.

For me the thing they MUST make better is the general rating system after the game. I mean for goodness sake, it's only really possible to get an 8/7.5 etc if you score goals or assist. That makes it useless to select DMF or CMF positions. When someone doesn't score or assist goals it doesn't...

For me the thing they MUST make better is the general rating system after the game. I mean for goodness sake, it's only really possible to get an 8/7.5 etc if you score goals or assist. That makes it useless to select DMF or CMF positions. When someone doesn't score or assist goals it doesn't...

I reckon maybe it's like the serie A last year, with licensed teams but only the league itself won't have the official name and logo? Anyways though, I do think PES needs a lot more leagues, why don't they try to scoop up the Argentinian league etc.?

NEWS JUST IN: EA Germany have confirmed that the bundesliga is exclusive to FIFA http://www.ps3-sense.nl/2009/07/de-bundes-liga-exclusief-in-fifa-10/ it's netherlands, but if you translate it it basically says that most people thought that Bundesliga will be in PES 10 but EA Germany...

I hear you, but remember that the officially licensed teams in PES can't be edited except for stadium etc. The lack of licenses is what makes the editing so good in pes. If all the teams were licensed in PES, editing would'nt have been so free as it is now.

blah blah blah, sounds like smokescreens to me. By the way, it's listed that the gameplay speed is slower but faster than fifa09, I played fifa09 and it was too fast already. Al this updates have nothing to do with animations and how the game plays in general. I'll wait for gameplay...

Unfortunately, not one of us is going to believe any previews or reviews, since the last two years we all thought the game would be awesome just to be bitterly dissapointed. Even the gameplay footage last year had me convinced. Eveything depends on the demo...and DON"T EVEN START WITH THE...

sigh, when are people going to learn that wikipedia is not a trustworthy source?? Maybe I should go and change that the EPL will be completely licensed this year and sit back end enjoy the total chaos and exitement in these forums.

It does sound more negative than anything else. If they were blown away by the game I reckon it would be more something like: ""PES 2010: played. Typing up thoughts today. Can't wait to tell people what we thought..." or something like that. I'm DEFINITELY going to buy fifa this year...

I agree with you saying that the two best teams should be licensed. Liverpool - Yes. Man Utd - yes It totally sucked when Newcastle and Tottenham were the licensed teams...WTF

The game is nearly up for Konami... I'm a huge PES fan, I've played every PES game from ps1 onwards...and last year was the first FIFA game I've bought since Fifa2000. This trailer is concerning as hell, it's just all graphics and nothing else to get excited about (sounds like fifa...

yeah yeah the graphics are great..but what else? fifa's graphics were always far superior but no-one thought that was a good game. The point I'm trying to make is that if graphics is the only thing that will get a major overhaul then PES2010 will be a massive dissapointment. I couldn't care...

I completely agree that it would make the game much more authentic. Though I feel Konami has a lot of work to do in far more important areas like gameplay, presentation, sound etc. and should perfect these before adding small details like different goal nets.