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yeah the edit mode looks awesome!

The only weather options is rain and normal, no snow! The guys at Pesfan has confirmed this as well! Though every stadium now has 3 time option, day, dusk and night!

yeah the fucked up thing is, they don't do their work concerning the squad updates, and then want to charge us for doing a proper job with the transfers. Also, I don't see the point in getting the Man Utd and Liverpool license if they won't include Anfield and Old Trafford. That is seriously...

yeah i do...fuck :fplm: lol

haaaaaaaaaaahahahahahah lol! the guys at pesfan isn't completely sure about the online lag, but it's reported that there is lag at times. also, no anfield or old trafford! Though edit mode seems very good, they've posted videos as well of edit mode, ball types, camera types etc.

Hi Guys, The guys at Pesfan has a release version full copy of PES09 and they are answering questions in this thread: http://forums.pesfan.com/showthread.php?t=207313&page=1 Summary: - only 3 decent ball types (the rest is that purple, blue crap from last year) - only high and normal...

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that's the crazy world we live in dude :fplm:

I have FIFA09, but haven't noticed any serie a teams not being licensed, what serie a teams are not licensed? I know people are complaining about the inter strip, but David Rutter (producer of FIFA09) said that is the strip they got from inter.

running up and down the edge of the box turning 180 degrees for up to 4/5 times, post a video of ANY real player doing that and I'll believe you. I'm not saying nobody is weaving around the box waiting for a scoring chance, but not running up and down like a moron with 5 defenders running...

Nobody can deny the fact that Fifa has made a hell of a lot of improvement the last 2 years. I bought FIFA09 and can honestly say it is a very good game, I'm really looking forward to PES09, but if it turns out a dissapointment like last year, I won't buy a PES game for a couple of years. I...

Yeah i know, but still, now that they are trying to go back to the PES5 days, it's a engine they already own, so what did they do in the other 11 months, they lost licenses, created 5 extra stadiums, and...uhm...a minor graphic update and...uhm...got the edit mode back to where it was 2 years...

Konami better take their finger out of their asses next year, another year of slight improvements won't do. Next year I want a revamp ML, it's been the same for 5 years now, I know EA promised a revamped manager mode next year.

I'm planning on getting both games, but I really don't know what Konami are going to have to do to come out on top this year! The animations, fluidness, atmosphere of Fifa really makes it an awesome game.

yeah everybody knows EA doesn't put in any effort with their pc games. I bought FIFA09 yesterday, and I'm really enjoying it a lot! The pace is just right, and if you don't like the pace you can adjust it. The AI is very smart, creates good chances and it defends superbly. It is a very very...

I bought Fifa yesterday, the first fifa i bought in more than 10 years. And to be honest, PES09 will have to pull out all the stops to beat fifa this year. I am really impressed by FIFA09!

no idea dude, seems R9 Ronaldo isn't in Fifa, hopefully he will be in PES

I've heard it a couple of times now that the final version of fifa09 is much better than the demo was...I'm certainly gonna give it a try!

That pretty much sums the situation up quite nicely :fplm: