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The preset strategies are great, it adds another dimension to the game, and it's very easy to do, by simply directing the d-pad towards the east. PES12, for the time being, has really surprised me, it's not great, but I'm certainly glad that I bought it. The only real negative for me about...

I shall do that, but first, people must decide which teams will not be tolerated. I'm thinking: Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter, AC Milan, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal (does Arsenal still count as a big team?), and a few others, I'm sure I'm forgetting quite a few. Teams that I don't have...

I hope so, it was possible in PES11, hopefully it is the same with PES12, and hopefully the connection will not be intolerable. To be honest, I don't see much of a point playing online if you cannot play against people in Europe or Japan or US, etc. Even more so with PES, which is mostly...

I don't have a problem with that, really, although I feel that variety would fuck up the idea of a league. I mean, even if you play with the same team all season long, you will still play against different teams with different playing styles, so variety is guaranteed either way. Though again, I...

Just wanted to create this thread so that the people interested in participating in a PESGaming League can sign up, and also add the name of the team that they'd like to use. Also use this thread to discuss how you want to play the league, the teams that can be used, the teams that cannot be...

I bought PES12 yesterday, I have given it plenty of time, and I just don’t get it; I mean, I’m good at it, but I just don’t find it entertaining enough, just like PES11, it feels flat more often than not. * * manual off the ball movement * * The main selling point for me was the new off the...

Someone should create a thread for PS3 and 360 owners who want to play a PESGaming League, just to have an idea of how many people want to participate.

These videos are really something -- "Neo in the Matrix" -- fucking hilarious.

So Usain Bolt is better than Messi?? He runs faster than Messi, and considering the fact that you think that movement within space has nothing to do with football.... well why don't we have Usain Bolt playing for Barcelona and Messi taking ballet classes? If I am running towards the west, and...

@ Konami Can the semi-automatic off the ball movement work in accordance to preset directions? I mean, instead of pressing the R3 button and the player making a vertical run, it sounds rather easy on theory, to assign different preset directions to each individual, similar to the old...

Not really, the AI cannot read my mind and decide that I want Player X to move from Point A to Point B; I disagree with you, you are being blatantly simplistic with your conclusion. I agree, it is rather impossible to direct the right analog stick and simultaneously press the passing...

Does Arsenal still count as a "big" team? I guess we would need to have two leagues if we get to use two teams, which would be cool. I don't have a probem with any team, I just don't want to play against Barcelona five times in one season.

Yeah but considering it would be a league, you would only play against Barcelona and Real Madrid a total of four times at the most. Personally, I prefer to play with/against big team or medium teams, I think below average teams are just boring, not due to lack of skill but becasue it's just more...

I agree, simply play exhibition matches, but with us organizing a league schedule ourselves, it sounds simpler. I don't like the idea of random team assignment, I would prefer it if people just pick whatever team they want to play with. I think teams like Atletico Madrid, Boca Juniors...

@ Konami Quite a few people have complained about the new off the ball system, because it is uncomfortable to simultaneously determine (1st) the direction in which the player runs without the ball and (2nd) the direction of the pass. I just want to ask, is it not possible to use the...

I haven't played the demo, but I was thinking about that; I mean, how do you direct the right analog stick and at the same time press the passing button? Sounds rather impossible or should I say uncomfortable.... I cannot see myself directing the right analog stick and at the same time using...

That sounds cool, home and away games, and nothing but pure competition as the incentive. We could even post the video of each game, so that your next opponent can study your tactics.... too serious? I would worry about what would happen if I get second place, but nah, I'm too good for second...

The people who regularly frequent the off-topic section should all get PES12, we could then create some sort of Member Wars based on PES12, could be entertaining. PS -- Yes I'm looking at you Ali.... Gonna get your ass handed to you on PES12....

It's clear to see that you are sharing a well intended suggestion, which I appreciate; certain people want to make me look like I attack and insult anyone who disagrees with me, but that's not true, I am merely defending myself after certain people personally offended me just because I expressed...